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  1. TaxPlaya

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    Adding to the Dog Days Posts Here...

    Given the success of the team the past few years, the "all time" Pats team is in need of an overhaul. Below is my crack, and let's have at it. First, a few rules:

    1. Each player must have played 50% plus one of his career in a Pats uni;

    2. You are not allowed to project careers for current players--look at Terrell Davis circa 1998.

    3. The players on the "team" don't have to fit a particular system or pretend that they would play well together.

    4. I'm leaving some open slots where I'm not sure. The old-timers can fill in the missing pieces.

    5. A "standard" package of players is required. Classic modern football (4-3, 1 TE, etc.)

    Here we go:

    Owner: Bob Kraft
    GM: Scott Pioli
    Head Coach: BB
    Asst Coach: Dante Scarnecchia

    QB: Tom Brady
    RB: Jim Nance
    FB: Sam Cunningham
    WR: Stanley Morgan
    WR: Troy Brown
    TE: Ben Coates
    LT: Bruce Armstrong
    LG: ??
    C: ??
    RG: John Hannah
    RT: ??
    K: Adam Vinatieri

    DE: Richard Seymour
    DT: Jim Lee Hunt
    DT: ??
    DE: Willie McGinest (putting him here since he was an elephant)
    OLB: Nick Buoniconti
    MLB: Steve Nelson
    OLB: Andre Tippett
    CB: Ty Law
    CB: Michael Haynes
    FS: ??
    SS: Lawyer Milloy
    P: Rich Camarillo

    ST: Larry Izzo

    Players that have a chance of breaking this lineup:

    Matt Light
    Deion Branch
    Mike Vrabel
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    #18 Jersey

    I'd still rank TD as the best Broncos RB in history, regardless of his short career.

    Anyways, I prefer to pick a "starter" and "backups" because at some positions it is tough to pick just one. First one (or two, at certain positions) is the "starter", after that is "backups".

    QB: Tom Brady, Drew Bledsoe, Steve Grogan
    RB: Jim Nance, Craig James
    FB: Sam Cunningham, Sam Gash
    WR: Troy Brown, Stanley Morgan, Gino Cappelletti, Randy Vataha
    TE: Ben Coates, Russ Francis
    OT: Bruce Armstrong, Leon Gray, Matt Light
    OG: John Hannah, Sam Adams, Ron Wooten
    OC: Pete Brock, Bill Lenkaitis

    DE: Richard Seymour, Julius Adams, Larry Eisenhauer
    DT: Jim Lee Hunt, Houston Antwine, Ray Hamilton
    LB: Andre Tippett, Steve Nelson, Nick Buoniconti, Willie McGinest, Tedy Bruschi
    CB: Mike Haynes, Ty Law, Raymond Clayborn, Maurice Hurst, Ronnie Lippett
    S: Lawyer Milloy, Tim Fox, Willie Clay

    ST: Mosi Tatupu, Larry Wigham, Larry Izzo
    K: Adam Vinatieri, Gino Cappelletti
    P: Rich Camarillo
    KR: Irving Fryar
    PR: Troy Brown

    If I was allowed players who didn't play for the Pats for long enough, Harrison would be ahead of Fox as a safety, no question, and Curtis Martin would be the top RB.
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    Guess that means we can't use Mike Haynes (7 years as a Pat (76-82), 7 years as a Raider (83-89)).
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    First off, Nance like Sam bam was a Fullback. His play was much more Larry Czonka than any RB. I would move Seymour to DT which he really is. As an oldtimer, Houston Antwine was the real star on the '60s era Patriots Dline. Jim Lee was just a sidekick. I'd substitute. I liked Larry Eisenhauer as a DE, but I think we have had better; Garin Veris career was short but he was pretty good.

    At right tackle I would put a guy who had a short career with us but Leon Gray alongside Hawg were an awesome duo. A huge amount of the 3100 yards accumulated rushing one season (almost two years worth of last years efforts) came over Hawg & Gray.

    Dr. Pete Brock was a pretty good center as was Jon Morris but I'd take the Dentist first.
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    Julie Adams is definetly a candidate for the other DE opposite Willie McG with Seymonsta and Houston inside.

    Haynes was so f'n good, he must be one of the CBs. The other is a toss up between Clayborn and Law.

    And your right NEM, Hawg was a LG! A couple very good but forgotten O-linemen were the tackle from Stanford a guy named Holloway(sp?). the other was Tom Neville back in the 60's/70s.

    And CuMar is so good he must be a Patriot RB....
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    What about guys like Bob Dee DE, from the 60s.

    Played his career with the old Pats, same as GC, those guys were pretty good in thier day.
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    Have to add Julius Adams, a guy who was here during the lean years, just an athlete to toiled on bad teams and made the pro bowl a couple of times...one of my all time favs as never heard him complain during his time here.
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