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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Childress is a bum. He locked out Culpepper from their facility then had some nice choice words for him. This is ridiculous.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Just so I'm clear, BB and the Pats are evil, disgusting blah blah blah, but this guy and organization are okay? Horrifying.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Wow I knew Childress was a horrible playcaller, I didn't lmow he was a horrible person.

    He'll be out of a job soon enough. Took him how many weeks to ride Peterson? What a jerk.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    You mean like how the Dolphins handled a similar situation involving Culpepper earlier this year?

    We, the media, and the men involved get caught up in the NFL, and rightfully so at times, but people need to realize that this is just a game. Some things are more important than playing football on Sundays. I appreciate the quote from Williamson.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    You are out of your mind. Culpepper refused to do what the team wanted him to do. He should have been locked out, they decided they did not want him on their team any more. Basically, he was fired, and it appears to have been a very smart move.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Childress is probably forced to comment on it as the head coach, but I very much doubt it's his decision. That's the organization's decision.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    I dont understand what is so bad about this.
    He was allowed to not play in the game.
    He is paid to play in games. Why would you pay him to not play?

    Maybe I am missing something, but I do not understand how an employer who grants an employee permission to leave their job is wrong to not pay them for the work they didn't do.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    You don't have funeral pay? Most companies I know give 3-5 days paid off for death of a family member.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    No, not like that. Culpepper was allowed into the facilty all off-season and was working hard to get back.

    The reason Cameron had him escorted off the field was because he had no plans on keeping Pep and if Pep got injured the Dolphins suddenly became liable. Completely different situations.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Its very different though. There are 16 footballs games a year. He is paid to play in them. Football players do not have vacation, sick days, etc because they work less than half the year.
    Im not saying he should have played, thats his decision, but its odd to me that someone who is paid to play football would expect to be paid when they chose not to play in the game, regardless of the reason.
    He wasn't available to his team that day. Should he be paid money he didnt earn?
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Good, Culpepper is a sleazy piece of dirt, he deserves to be degraded by everyone.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Is this how it usually works though? That if a player misses a game for a personal reason, he's not paid? Does this usually happen? I can't recall other situations like this, but it must happen.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Nah, Culpepper worked hard, the only thing I don't like is the way he acted when he scored against the Fins this year. It was a business decision to let him go and him acting like that was totally childish and unprofessional.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    I'm not sure, but it doesnt seem wrong to me.
    Really, think about it, he is paid to play. Wouldn't paying him for this game be giving him money he didnt earn?
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Childress is certainly a lot smarter than the Miami organization that traded for Fumblepepper.

    And the fans that came here to brag about it.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Well, I remember that Dungy missed a game after his son's death. Wouldn't it have been wildly inappropriate to dock him part of his pay because of it?
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    I guess you make a good point, it just sounds awful to me.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    If he came down with the flu, they'd still pay him. Seems small on their part, but maybe there are other factors involved.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Its something called human courtesy and decency, not everything needs a hard business line drawn around it. The $435,000 they docked him is beyond peanuts for an nfl organization, so to go ahead with docking him the money while using the terms "business decision" is extremely tasteless, considering it would've been a miniscule sacrifice.

    I love how its ok for organizations to be all about the money and decisions being just business, but when players are all about the money they suddenly become pricks and bad people. The great NFL double standard.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    $435K is actually his annual salary. They docked him $25K.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    I own a small business with 6 employees. I have never docked pay from someone who had to take a few days or even a week for a funeral.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    I think it's the great sports double standard. Players are greedy, selfish, disloyal, but management and ownership are smart, business minded, shrewd.

    That's why I never fault a player for getting as much money as he can, if that's what he wants. If given the opportunity, most of these organizations will turn right around and treat players like crap if it's in their best interest.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    Here's the thing...

    Childress blabbed to the press about a backroom, off-the-record personnel conversation with Belichick.

    Childress took cruel and totally unnecessary public potshots at Jeff George.

    Now he's managed to make the Vikings organization look like heartless bastards for docking Williamson. It's not just what was done, but what was said. Come on, listing names of other players who have played after a funeral? I guarantee you a better public explanation from Childress would have tamped down the backlash this has created.

    Do you want this man to be the public face of your organization? He really does not seem ready for a high-profile leadership position.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    He is paid to play when he is available. Zack Thomas missed the Giants game after a car accident. Bet he got paid. The difference is that people consider it Troy's choice to miss that game. I don't know the full situation, but circumstances may have made it impossible to fulfill his family obligations and still make the game. That would make him just as unavailable as Zack was in London.

    Maybe the owner needs a lesson...

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    Then Zygi thought of something he hadn't before!
    "Maybe family," he thought, "doesn't come from a store.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization [merged]

    It seems that every season there are players who miss a game due to their wife being in labor/giving birth to a child. I have never read of one of these players being docked a game check for missing a game for being in attendance at the birth of their child.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    If the Fins where halfway decent, they would have let him go BEFORE training camp started so the he could gind a new team. They tried to screw him over, and you think he isn't happy to score agaisnt them.

    On the other hand, it is kind of bush league to celebrate scoring against the Fins. It isn't like everybody doesn't do it any time they want to.
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization

    They're spoiled by Adrian Peterson, who worked out at the combine hours after learning that his brother had been shot and killed (something I had no problem with, and did not consider it particularly callous as many did... people channel grief in different ways).
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    Re: Brad Childress and The Vikings: One Compassionate Organization [merged]

    Have you ever read that they were paid?

    I don't know the answer. But the fact that nothing was said either way doesn't prove anything.

    Besides, I don't recall players not playing in games for personal reasons. Favre after his father's death, Ken Walter while his wife was giving birth, they all played.

    Seymour went to his grandfather's funeral midweek, spent that night there, and was not allowed to start the following week. And that was midweek.
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