Union files grievance on behalf of Branch

[mikey]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...bYF?slug=ap-patriots-branch&prov=ap&type=lgns

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[Jacky Roberts]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_y...bYF?slug=ap-patriots-branch&prov=ap&type=lgns

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All those senseless trees that have to die for the paper in this waste of a grievance.

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

He noted that Branch was the 65th player drafted in 2002, one of the last in the second round, and that Miami sent a second-round pick to Minnesota before this season for quarterback Daunte Culpepper.

1. Culpepper has never been super bowl MVP.
2. Culpepper is coming off a very difficult knee injury to rehab.
3. Culpepper was not traded within the division.
4. A player may exceed his draft status.

Could the NFLPA and Branch's agent please make this a little more difficult to defend?

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

A crippled QB in rehab is the equivalent of Deion's worth!

 

[zippo59]

1. Culpepper has never been super bowl MVP.
2. Culpepper is coming off a very difficult knee injury to rehab.
3. Culpepper was not traded within the division.
4. A player may exceed his draft status.

Could the NFLPA and Branch's agent please make this a little more difficult to defend?

5. Culpepper had an absolutely terrible year statistically.

 

[5 Rings for Brady!!]

If Upshaw and the NFLPA get their way, then the facts of this grievance are completely irrelevant. They want to take down the Pats a notch, no question.

 

[mgcolby]

Interesting so they are saying Branch isn't worth a first round pick but he is worth a top 10 salary?

Didn't the Pats get **** about this exact same thing. The only difference is the Pats own his rights for atleast two seasons so they can ask and offer what ever they choose.

What a couple of dumbasses.

 

[zippo59]

What I find so weird about this, is that Branch and his agent are trying to give arguments trying to diminish his value in terms of what a team should get in return for a trade, yet also tries to argue that he is valueable enough to be paid as one of the best WR in the NFL. Seems like Mr. Branch wants it both way.

 

[zippo59]

Interesting so they are saying Branch isn't worth a first round pick but he is worth a top 10 salary?

Didn't the Pats get **** about this exact same thing. The only difference is the Pats own his rights for atleast two seasons so they can ask and offer what ever they choose.

What a couple of dumbasses.

Ack you're too quick for me.

 

[mgcolby]

Ack you're too quick for me.

Great minds think a like. Or maybe its just the beer.

 

[upstater1]

I'm an NFL GM. Note to self: never give a player under contract the right to seek a trade partner because the union will file a grievance.

Brilliant lawyers, eh?

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

5. Culpepper had an absolutely terrible year statistically.

6. After the love boat incident, the Vikings owner was a motivated seller.

Regards,
Chris

 

[zippo59]

I don't know if this has already been posted in other threads, but PFT brings up a good point about the legitimacy of the "verbal agreement" between the Pat's about Branch giving him permission to seek a trade.

Maybe we're missing something here (and it wouldn't be a first), but even if the Pats verbally agreed (as Branch alleges) to trade Branch if presented with a "fair and reasonable" trade offer, that's in no way an enforceable contract because the Patriots received nothing in exchange for allowing Branch to explore a trade.

The law calls it "consideration" -- in every binding contract, there must be some consideration given by each side to the transaction. If, for example, I promise to give you a pimento loaf sandwich, I have no legal obligation to honor the commitment unless you also have promised to give me something of value in exchange for it. Here, Branch gave up nothing to the Patriots, who had no obligation to even allow him to explore a trade; thus, there is and was no binding agreement that the team would trade him.

 

[Murphys95]

Branch was the last player selected in the 2nd round in 2002. He got that wrong.

But the crux of the grievance lies in this comment,

"The grievance alleges that in allowing Branch to work out a contract with another team, the Patriots agreed they would trade him if Branch was comfortable with that contract and the draft choice compensation for him "was commensurate with what has been the value of similar players," Berthelsen said in a telephone interview.

If they have such an agreement in writing, then they may have an argument. If this is just their interpretation of the Patriots statement allowing Branch to seek a trade, then it is a stretch.

 

[upstater1]

As for consideration, maybe Branch had agreed to come in from the cold, which would explain Kraft and Branch's comments earlier this week.

That's giving up something for nothing.

In the meantime, they would have to argue over proper compensation. The Patriots would probably refer back to the Galloway trade.

 

[Chris]

theres no way they could ever agree in favor of the players union.. this would ruin all teams ability to trade.. basically it would say that if a player thinks he should be traded for a 2nd then it goes.. no way will this grievance go anywhere.. waste of time

 

[zippo59]

theres no way they could ever agree in favor of the players union.. this would ruin all teams ability to trade.. basically it would say that if a player thinks he should be traded for a 2nd then it goes.. no way will this grievance go anywhere.. waste of time

If the union won this then it would only come into play if a team agrees with a player that they will trade that player for certain compensation before actually negotiating any trades. It wouldn't mean that if one team decides to trade a player that that player can in anyway dictate the compensation that teir former team will receive.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Let the NFLPA check in and assert that a valid contract exsits between and among the three parties, the Patriots, Branch and NY Jets. Let teh NFLPA assert that a verbal contract exsits and should be binding on all three parties.

I am more and more sure that arbitration will lead to two #1 picks from the Jets to the Patriots in return for the services of Branch at the agreed negotiated compensation rate! The NFLPA apparently agrees! Concurs that a implicit verbal contract amomgst the parties exists and is enforceable !!!!


Woo Hoo !!!

There is no other compensation than that prescribed in the collectively bargained compensation. That is 2 #1s for a player payed at the "franchise rate" for a WR. And both the Pats and Jets have made offers at that rate or equivalent.

A pair of busted knee players Walker and the Miami QB are not equivalent to a healthy SB MVP WR.

See my post on the legal Consequences to the NY Jets.

Goody Goody Goody!!!

 

[mikey]

Let the NFLPA check in and assert that a valid contract exsits between and among the three parties, the Patriots, Branch and NY Jets. Let teh NFLPA assert that a verbal contract exsits and should be binding on all three parties.

I am more and more sure that arbitration will lead to two #1 picks from the Jets to the Patriots in return for the services of Branch at the agreed negotiated compensation rate! The NFLPA apparently agrees! Concurs that a implicit verbal contract amomgst the parties exists and is enforceable !!!!


Woo Hoo !!!

There is no other compensation that that prescribed in the collectively bargained compensation. That is 2 #1s for a player payed at the "franchise rate" for a WR And both the Pats and Jets have made offers at that rate or equivalent.

See my post on the legal Consequences to the NY Jets

Goody Goody Goody!!!

If the Patriots think Branch equals 2 #1's, then why are they not willing to give him the pay of 2 #1's??

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[zippo59]

Is the NFLPA required to file a grievance on behalf of a player no matter how ridiculous it is? Or can they tell a player that it's stupid and end it there?