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Unbelievable: State Dept. Condemns Anti-Islam Video in Pakistani Ad

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    Not so much in direct response to these specific protests, but I still don't understand why we give them any money (I would say the same about many places).

    I would cut most foreign aid and reroute it to domestic projects as we certainly have work to do here at home.

    I will say that killing OBL across the street from what all intents and purposes is Pakistans West Point should have been the nail in the coffin for them getting anything.

    Strange bedfellows....or something like that.
     
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    I thought it was ridiculous when some people called Obama "A Muslim" but I don't anymore, I am beginning to believe it myself.

    I have lost a lot of resepct for Old Pant Suit Hillary also for her trying to peddle that "video crap" on us, the Attack on our embassy was Terrorism and the whole world knows it and it was Planned.
     
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    If this strategy can quell the violence and death it is worth it, but unfortunately it seems to be having little effect..

    They should condemn it, no one has answered why a coptic christian, who was convicted of fraud and is a known pornographer, would put fellow coptic christians in so much danger, because of this video.

    Funny how the right all of a sudden loves a guy who posed as a jew to incite violence, and is a pornographer and also did time for fraud.. flava of the week.

    They will throw him to the curb next week.. the right so so loves freedom of speech, the seven words that Natalie Mains said caused an effort by the hard core right to completely ruin their careers, followed by threats of rape.. freedom of speech is not situational.
     
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    The "right" having anything to do with the hard right is no different than Muslims having anything to do with hard core Muslims. Just the other day you gave a great big "like" to MrP's thread with a Muslims statement that they shouldn't be lumped in with the hard core violent ones that have murdered.
     
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    It still is Harry. Obama is not a Muslim. That said the Administration is right about the content of the movie. It should be condemned. I think they are also exploiting it to keep any ideas that they were asleep at the switch on 9-11-12. At the same time the right is playing politics with it too.
     
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    This will encourage the radicals, when they see (from their POV) the President and Sec of State groveling they view this as a victory and will press their perceived advantage. More to come.


    Appeasers never learn apologizing doesn't work.

    If you have kids and the kid throws a tantrum and breaks something, if you buy them candy how will it affect their behavior?

    Adults will react the same way kids will (not just Islamist BTW, this is a human reaction).


    DUMB DUMB DUMB
     
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    The genie is already out of the bottle with this. Radicals will use no apology or an apology equally to spin and press.....but I'm afraid you're right. More to come.
     
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    Good luck to the world.
     
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    It will have the opposite effect. It sends the message that violence is the key to getting results.
     
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    Steyn sums it up better than I ever could:

    Mark Steyn: 'Barack & Hillary at the movies' | obama, clinton, government - Opinion - The Orange County Register
     
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    The opposite of what???? My comments were obtuse and indicating that the video seemed to have no effect...

    However the effect of the video is not known, as the demonstrations were planned prior to and not because of..

    This whole rhetoric seems to stem from a bunch of " internet message board mid east experts" who understand the muslim culture and psyche, however no one really knows the outcome of this video... this video came out thus x, y and z happened, but when "the innocence of muslims" trailer was played on youtube.. these same posters claimed that this was not the reason for the initial violence, that was because of 9-11...

    Anything and everything should be tried, to help quell the violence.. however the underlying them seems to be to kill more and more muslims, sort them out later.. Cheney is proud of you all.

    You folks need to be consistent in your messaging..
     
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    You have to understand that by repeating the lie that this was the result of a movie that came out months before, it helps take away the responsibility from the administration that ignored the warnings.

    My first thoughts that Barack Hussein Obama might be a Muslim, or at least a Muslim supporter, beside his name of course, came from his own words;

    "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." Barack Hussein Obama

    Then he became President and is now proving it.
     
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    Time to fact check your quote.. it is wrong, and paraphrased... the quote does not mention the word muslim, check out page 261 of "Dreams of my Father"...

    The lies continue..

    snopes.com: Obama Racism Quotes

     
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    Protesting the content of a film in the streets in Muslim countries is idiotic bahavior but the film is not what it's about. THe film is just the match to the fuse. No one is worried about a match if there's no keg of TNT in the room, but when there's twenty kegs, a match is a bad idea. THese uneducated, superstitious young men living in horrible conditions, without a job, being harassed by their corrupt dictatorship governments which are funded by the US might have more to do with the level of danger and animosity to the US.

    To blame this unrest on the film without considering the larger and more complex problems these men faceis ignoring the real problems. We have to get ourselves disconnected from the Middle East and stop arming these flea-bitten, 19th-century governments.
     
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    Most recent demonstrations in Afghanistan were to demand that their government cut ties with the US and France. They were peaceful. In supposedly more advanced Pakistan, the demonstrations were very violent.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20120922_Violence_kills_19_in_Pakistan.html

    "Thousands angered by an anti-Muslim film ignored pleas for peaceful rallies and rampaged in several Pakistani cities Friday in battles with police that killed 19 people and touched off criticism of a government decision to declare a national holiday to proclaim devotion for the Prophet Muhammad."

    The government of Pakistan needs a punch in the mouth for setting this up. Calling a holiday was an insane move that shows how little they actually care about their own people, not to mention whipping up anti-American sentiment that could produce terrorists who would harm Americans and their "allies" around the world.

    So now we have Egypt and Pakistan, two countries receiving MASSIVE amounts of military aid from the US officially sanctioning violence against US interests.

    Bizarro World.
     
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    This is correct, in this context taxpayers paying for ads which are apologies merely serve to helps these folks feel that their riots are justified.
     
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    You have never answered this question, particularly as in the past you have shown concern about the Coptics and the possibility of prosecution.

    Why did a coptic, initially posing as a jew, release a trailer of a film that demonizes the muslim religion??? Particularly as these actions may put the Coptics in greater danger than before...

    Why does the right continually support a guy who was a pornographer, did time for fraud and now may be responsible for inciting the tinderbox that is the mideast???
     
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    Reacting to the violence sends the message that it is the way to be taken seriously. It will not quell the violence, it will ultimately lead to more.

    No argument here. :rofl:
     

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