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  1. Fogbuster

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    Can things get any more dismal for these charlatans, fakirs, and frauds? The Pelosi gang has now plummeted to an all-time low of [highlight] 14% [/highlight] trust rating!!! Wow!!

    Read it and weep, Bush-haters:


    New Gallup data show confidence in Congress at all time low

    Just 14% of Americans have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in Congress.

    This 14% Congressional confidence rating is [highlight] the all-time low [/highlight] for this measure, which Gallup initiated in 1973. The previous low point for Congress was 18% at several points in the period of time 1991 to 1994.

    Congress is now nestled at the bottom of the list of Gallup's annual Confidence in Institutions rankings, along with HMOs. Just 15% of Americans have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in HMOs. (By way of contrast, 69% of Americans have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in the military, which tops the list. More on this at galluppoll.com on Thursday).

    It’s worth remembering that Congress is basically nothing more than a mechanism for the representation of the people’s wishes. We all can’t go to Washington. So we elect men and women and send them off in our stead. It’s not an optimal situation, it seems to me, when such a low percentage of average Americans have confidence in this system.

    Generally speaking, Americans have been skeptical about Congress for decades now. But the current 14% confidence rating for Congress is down from 19% last year and is [highlight] the lowest in Gallup’s history, [/highlight] surpassing the 18% confidence in Congress measured in 1991, 1993 and 1994.

    (more.... )

    http://blogs.usatoday.com/gallup/2007/06/what_do_hmos_an.html



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    Combined with the 28% that trust George, indicates what a sad state of affairs that America is in right now... guess the will of the people is not being followed, if they had voted to stop the war in Iraq their ratings would have probably been well over 50%.. nothing to back it up, but that is what the majority of the American People want.
     
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    99% of the people -- in America and the world, too -- want the war to end. Who likes war? It's sick.

    But the question is: what to do afterward; how to prevent another Saddam; how to effect a peace between Shi'a, Sunni, and Kurd; a peace with the non-Muslim world.

    Many questions hang over our heads, and we need to make the right decisions because the wrong one could be very costly.


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    I guess you are right, the will and wishes of the American people should be denied.. if it never happened questions like this would never have come up..
     
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    :wha:


    I'm trying to agree with your premise here, but if you want to twist it around into something it's not, then go pound sand.


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    It is what it is, take it at face value, should not have gone to war in Iraq, should get out as soon as possible.. pure and simple. If we did not go there your questions would not be asked. The American People spoke in the last election and all of our elected officials do not listen and do exactly as they want, pander to big gov't and big special interest.
     
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    You are ignoring the fact that we ARE there. And we need to make sure that before we "leave" we put in place a stable system that will not become a haven for terrorism. This is what the goal was from the beginning, as far as I am concerned (and as far as Bush is concerned, fwiw).

    I know you're upset over the war, and believe me when I say that I am more than upset over this continued strife which does nothing but drag down the U.S. and the world. Having said that, we must always remember that as the leader of the world we have a responsibility to Iraq and the Middle East to create peace-loving and stable governance.


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    two questions:

    1) who said we're the "leader of the world?"

    2) where was it ever written we have a "responsibility" to Iraq and the Middle East to create peace-loving and stability?

    this privatized occupation was a choice, not a "responsibility"... how arrogant...
     
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    Good luck with your lofty goals, Iraq was not a safe haven for terrorists prior to our invasion, now it is.. to achieve this it will take about 20 years, billions of dollars and a lot of lives on both sides.
     
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    Abandoning Iraq to either Saddam's terror or al qaeda's terror is not an option.

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    But this thread, all hijacking attempts in vain, is all about the false promises of the DEMOCRATS who said they were the new marshals in town, gonna clean everything up.

    Well, guess what: they are clearly no better than those they said were "so bad".

    So, spin, spin, spin to your hearts' contents. In the end good will win and evil will lose. Hope for everyone's sake they are on the side of good.


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    $800 billion-$1.2 trillion dollars, actually... considering reconstruction, medical bills, military cost, and on and on....

    there is no more money... there is no more will.... there are no more troops.... there is no more stomache...

    read "Blood Money" ... and digest just how many unaccounted billions Halliburton, Bechtel, Qualcomm and the lot of them have milked from the U.S. taxpayer through the Pentagon and Iraq...

    then reflect upon the 3,580 dead soldiers, 30,000+ wounded soldiers, 100,000+ mentality damaged soldiers, and 150,000+ dead Iraq civilians, all in the name of corporate greed....
     
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    what's embarrassing for whatever is left of this thread author's integrity is that he's apparently trying to pretend that his earlier depiction of 28% has somehow plummeted to 14% in just a few days, as if they're the same poll... when, in fact, this new poll he's presenting is a totally different question, and a totally different subset ... nice spin, Master Deflector... no one's buying your smoke screening pap...

    the poll is asking who has a "great deal or quite a lot of confidence" in Congress... of course that's gonna be lower than plain ole' "confidence"...

    Curious, what percentage have a "great deal or quite a lot of confidence" in Boy King and his cohorts? Some 3%? ... yeah, you know, the Texas mafia, Regent and Liberty Universities, Crawford, Provo, Halliburton, some CEOs and whoever's left from that abandoned, sinking ship?

    regardless, why are you constantly hawking an "us vs. them" contrast in leadership approval, yet your the genius who's always squawking a "we must unite" front... ???

    could you be more of a hypocritical fraud with every other post, Fog?
     
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    I don't know, Pressy, seems like your bone of contention is with Gallup Polls, not me. I mean, we're not talking some diddly little wannebe polls, like Marist or Pew, Roper or Harris, or even johnny-come-lately and so-called conservative Zogby. No, not at all. We're talking the grand-daddy poll of them all: the one and the original George Gallup poll. For a guy who plays the "populace" card with such zeal, you sure look stupid down-playing this one.

    Oh, I know: anything for your cause.

    Gotcha.



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    Well glad to see you agree that lots of terrorist are there now. Looking at the numbers of AL Queda being killed it's not exactly a 'safe haven'.

    Here is reporting from in the field on the start of the surge (the one H Reid has already declared a failure).

    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/operation-arrowhead-ripper-day-one.htm
     
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    So, if this is so abhorrent to you, why don't you go down to DC and set yourself on fire, as the Buddhist monks did during the Vietnam war. Come on, big protestor, put your back into it.

    Instead, what do you do? Go gambling at Foxwoods, smoke reefer, go boinking some girl, spend all day at blog sites. Might as well take to the streets and stand on a soap box, trying to raise the rabble. Don't poke your bad self with the pitch fork, though. Tetanus is a bad dog.



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    Congress can regain the trust and confidence of Americans by:

    (1) Ending the war in Iraq

    (2) Secure our border and deport the illegal aliens.


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    Jesus Mike, I agree with you, those Killing Bastards in Iraq don't want our help and we got rid of Saddam like everybody wanted, now it's time to get the hell out.

    The illegal aliens are nothing but trouble, even if it cost 20 trillion dollars they should be rounded up and kicked the hell out of America, we should not tolerate law breakers to sneak into this country.

    Don't feed them don't hire them, nothing for free then watch how fast they will "sneak" back into Mexico, Jail the Ceo's and close down the buisness' that hires them.
    Do this and you won't have to round them up, they will gladly "LEAVE".
    :bricks:
     
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    #91 Jersey

    It's at an all time low because maybe the average Amrican is realiseing that these politicians are only looking out for themselves.They have no integrity,they spend most of their time playing duck and cover their azz's so they can get ELECTED AGAIN. They don't care who lives or dies,if you have a job or not,or if people have health care.etc.etc.etc.....
     
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    more profound Christian message from our most transparent hypocrite...

    let's review, shall we? our reverend here has suggested his main form ass-kicker set himself on fire, eats turd, is lice-ridden, endures menstruation, is bird feces, is a scum-sucking bottom feeder and a meth addict... God must be so proud of his angry little vessel...

    first, i don't spend all day on here... that would be you... it's not even close... second, i do more to protest this moronic administration than you'll even know or understand...

    what's interesting, Reverend, is that between the two of us, you're the one speaking Satan the past week or so, and i'm routinely burying you with facts that you gloss over and ignore... i welcome you to continue assaulting my character, which you've done from the very start... it only highlights your lack of an argument... you have nothing, you can't defend your looney ideology, and your president and his cohorts -- as much as you're now trying to conveniently distance yourself from them -- are the very definition of lame duck...
     
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    You know, Pressy, even God has a statute of limitations on having to listen to somebody who's obviously living a fantasyland which, if not full of "magic mushrooms", sure does give off that vibe.

    Everybody here has seen your m.o., how you lead with your personal insults and ad hominem attacks, so to even try to turn that around will earn you kudos from about only Joe Goebels and "Papa Joe" Stalin. They made a living, suddenly truncated as they were, by telling the BIG LIE, painting their enemies with the sins they themselves committed. And you've clearly learned from the "best" in that realm of 1984.

    Anyway, when your head clears and you decide to return to earth, come on back and try again.


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