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U.S. Soldier Accused of Killing 16 Afghans, Including Women and Children

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    U.S. Soldier Accused of Killing 16 Afghans, Including Women and Children - ABC News

    In an untimely blow to U.S.-Afghan relations, a U.S. soldier left his base in Kandahar in the middle of the night, walked to a nearby residential area and opened fire, allegedly killing up to 16 Afghan civilians.

    Nine of the victims were children, and three were women, all shot while they slept in their beds, according to villagers and the Afghan president's office.

    U.S. officials were quick to condemn the attack.

    "I offer my profound regret and deepest condolences to the victims and their families," Gen. John Allen, head of NATO forces in Afghanistan, said in a statement.
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    That sucks.Saw this earlier.
    Time to get out.
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    War Is Hell
    Where Did The Bush War Protesters Go
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    Why Hasn't Obama Stopped These Senseless Wars
    Where Is Little "Nasty Face" Sean Penn
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    He sould be court marshaled and shot.
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    Agreed but what happens when Karzi demands that he be turned over to the Afghans for trial? Do they turn him over? Get him on a plane back to the US pronto and lock him up at Leavenworth before it hits the fan , and it will....
    My fear is that this is akin to My Lai and what Baruch Goldstein did at the mosque back in 1994 and the ramifications will be far reaching...
    I have posted many times that I wish we would completely leave that sh*thole before many other brave men and women die.........Leave them to their own mess.
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    I have concluded that I have to assemble a tin foil hat and place it on my head prior to reading your comments.
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    For once I agree with you -- at the very least, that there's a good possibility this kid is mentally ill.
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    If I said that you'd remind me of my "deep seated hostility to the military" and ask me why I hated America.

    Then you'd tell me I wasn't there and I didn't know what happened and, since I'd never been in the military myself, I had no right to speak ill of those who did.
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    If the story is true and this guy(s) intentionally murdered women and children, they should be put to death by firing squad. If that's still allowed.

    I think we may need to revisit our being there. The recent deaths of US soldiers by "friendly" afghans, as well as this incident, might mean the situation is unworkable. I'm not there, and can only opine based on what I see from a distance.
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    No if there were any dispute I would ask that we wait until the chages were proven in this case the soldier has confessed to the crime there is no doubt in the matter.

    My position is that US troops be given the benefit of any doubt. However there are held to the highest standards and in a case where they commit cold blooded murder by his own admission the penalties the harshest possible. This sort of thing is unacceptable.


    My beef is when people ASSSUME the guilt of a soldier. The Haditha case is a good example of that.
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    Now, if that were the case, screw these guys, and I would think you also need to evaluate whether any of their superiors need to face charges.

    Regardless of the situation, this is horrible for both the families of the victims and the families of these soldiers. I mean, there's a good chance you'e proud of your kid and think he's doing something admirable, and then you learn that he's either mentally ill or a drunk mass murderer. It's the kind of thing that could ruin a family and that the parents might not ever come back from.
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    BTW I am still waiting for the Afghans to apologize for the US troops murdered over burning a book.
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    Irrelevant.
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    Really? From the article cited it sounds like there are still alot of questions.

    Maybe you've read something more current.

    Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"
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    It was time to leave last year, and post OBL being had, it was really time to go. 3 PR nightmares and then this incident only further proves the point.

    Now having said that, I am not equating this incident, which has no defense, to the other incidents; signage, peeing on dead people and burning books. In no way shape or form do those incidents = purposefully killing non combatants. Attempting to equate the two is dishonest at best, and decreases the significance of the killing of innocence.

    The only things which come from staying there any longer are costs to us, in terms of blood and treasure.

    Conduct unbecoming a US soldier for this person(s) should be dealt with to the fullest extent of military law up to and including execution.

    If Aghanis want freedom, "well your turn at the plate kid". If they don't want it...well honestly I couldn't care less. Live and let live. If they won't fight to keep their freedoms in the face of their lives under the Taliban....well that sucks for them.

    Bring our troops home and stop this sh*t like yesterday.

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    Tell Karzi to F'off, and demand an apology for the US Service men killed after the book burning riots or we will leave.. IMO
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    From the link in the OP:


    My remark was based on this account.


    If he confessed then he should be shot, if the OP is in error then of course the matter should be investigated to determine the truth.
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    US Soldiers being murdered by people we are helping may be irrelevant to you it isn't to me.
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