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    Terrorist watch lists shorter than previously reported - CNN.com

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The federal government's terrorist watch lists are far shorter than have been reported, the secretary of homeland security said Wednesday.

    Michael Chertoff revealed for the first time that 2,500 people are on the "no fly" list and only about 10 percent of those are U.S. citizens. Individuals on this list are barred from boarding aircraft because intelligence indicates they pose a threat to aviation.

    Fewer than 16,000 people are designated "selectees," he said, and most are not Americans. These people represent a less specific security threat and receive extra scrutiny, but are allowed to fly.

    The American Civil Liberties Union has estimated more than 1 million names have been added to the lists since the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The FBI, which manages the Terrorist Screening Database, said in August that there were about 400,000 people on its list, but that approximately 95 percent of those people were not U.S. citizens. Video Watch more about the no fly lists »

    But even if there are only 18,500 names on the no fly and selectee lists, thousands of people not on the lists are mistaken for those who are. They are often subjected to extra security at airports because their names are similar to ones on the lists.

    A government program unveiled Wednesday is aimed at addressing that problem.

    Under the program, Secure Flight, travelers will be asked to provide their full name, date of birth and gender when making airline reservations. The encrypted information will then be transmitted to the Transportation Security Administration, which will run it against the watch lists. The Department of Homeland Security believes the few pieces of additional information will dramatically reduce the number of people falsely identified as being on a watch list.

    Currently, individual airlines compare the names on manifests with the no-fly and selectee lists. Their performance has been uneven, according to the Transportation Security Administration. Chertoff says having the government do the matching should improve efficiency and security.
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    The ACLU welcomed the privacy protections in the program, but Barry Steinhardt, director of the ACLU's Technology and Liberty Program, said it is based on "a hopelessly bloated watch list that has over a million names on it."

    "It still is going to result in countless Americans being either denied boarding to a plane or being stopped [and] aggressively searched at airports," he said.
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    i was pulled aside for the obligatory random pat down just last week...

    if you print out your boarding pass and it has "SSSS" on it (what an unfortunate series of letters), expect to have your junk fondled in public...

    needless to say, i gave the Dept. of Homeland Security the business for it...
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    That happened to me years ago, c. 2003, and complaining about it just gets your name on the list to have it happen again, and again...

    Now, if only Bill Clinton had checked why those Saudi young men were coming into the States to learn how to take off in jumbo jets.... but NOT to land... This conversation would not be happening.


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    You clearly have no clue regarding the timeline of who was in charge when the hijackers were under FBI surveillance... That would be your hero in Chief... Not Bill Clinton... NOt only that, but Clinton conveyed to the incoming Bush Administration that AQ was a more pressing and dire threat than anything ... It was Boy King who CHOSE to ignore those direct warnings... Throughout 2001...
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    Yada, yada. Here's a few "clues":

    Hijackers studied flying under Clinton's calendar. Came over from Saudi, et. al., to Florida training centers, signed up to learn how to fly, etc.

    Why didn't Clinton ask: "Hey, man, why you learnin' how to go up but not how to fly down????"

    As to AQ, yeah, Clinton rang that bell real hard, didn't he?? Had bin Laden, let him go.

    Next.

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    Don't worry The Messiah will get rid of all that "Protect America" sh!t.
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