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    U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds

    U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds
    FoxNews ^ | August 26, 2009

    Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:01:55 PM by Steelfish

    U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds

    August 26, 2009 By Joseph Abrams

    NEW YORK — The United Nations is recommending that children as young as five receive mandatory sexual education that would teach even pre-kindergarteners about masturbation and topics like gender violence.

    The U.N.'s Economic, Social and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) released a 98-page report in June offering a universal lesson plan for kids ranging in age from 5-18, an "informed approach to effective sex, relationships" and HIV education that they say is essential for "all young people."

    The U.N. insists the program is "age appropriate," but critics say it's exposing kids to sex far too early, and offers up abstract ideas — like "transphobia" — they might not even understand.

    "At that age they should be learning about ... the proper name of certain parts of their bodies," said Michelle Turner, president of Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum, "certainly not about masturbation."

    Turner was disturbed by UNESCO's plans to explain to children as young as nine about the safety of legal abortions, and to advocate and "promote the right to and access to safe abortion" for everyone over the age of 15.

    "This is absurd," she told FOXNews.com.

    The UNESCO report, called "International Guidelines for Sexuality Education," separates children into four age groups: 5-to-8-year-olds, 9-to-12-year-olds, 12-to-15-year-olds and 15-to-18-year-olds.

    Under the U.N.'s voluntary sex-ed regime, kids just 5-8 years old will be told that "touching and rubbing one's genitals is called masturbation" and that private parts "can feel pleasurable when touched by oneself."
     
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    I suppose the question is, Do we cling to the old religious world view or do we embrace the scientific model. Assuming the report is based on sound scientific method, then the whole program (not just the dirty piece that titillates righties) could help accomplish the following:

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/082509_unesco.pdf

    "• delay the debut of sexual intercourse;
    • reduce the frequency of unprotected sexual activity;
    • reduce the number of sexual partners; and
    • increase the use of protection against pregnancy and STIs during sexual intercourse."

    Religion is fine, but don't be afraid of science.
     
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    WTF does teaching 5 year olds how to masturbate, have to do with religion? Who teaches a 5 year old how to pull his prick? What a ****ed up report.
     
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    The point may be that if sex is not treated as something so taboo, kids will be able to deal with it more maturely. I'm not going to prejudge the report without considering it's evidence. Your evidence is simply your the attitudes of your culture and religion, which I presume is where your beliefs came from. Tradition is nice, but I still prefer the scientific method.
     
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    You brought up religion you goof. Twice! Seriously dude, wtf does religion have to do with teaching 5 year olds how to whack off? Would you teach your 5 year old son, or nephew, how to whack off? WTF is wrong with people. We're talking 5 year olds! My guess is that this is an idea brought to you by the same people who think it's swell to drug kids, who actually act like, well, kids. :rolleyes:
     
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    Where do your views come from if not your religion and culture. From your readings on the subject of sex education?

    I agree that intuitively it probably doesn't make sense to teach 5-8 year olds about masturbation, but I'm open minded about it. If studies really show that teaching kids that age helps reduce promiscuity, sexual abuse, and so on, isn't it worth at least thinking about it? Why does science frighten you so much?

    And again, if your views aren't based on science or religion, what are they based on? Did you learn about masturbation at the age of 5 and find it damaging?
     
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    Nice to see this is what the UN wastes its time on. Let kids find out how to whack on their own. Why teach five year olds?

    It isn't bout religion or culture. It is rather awkward and unnecessary to tutor five year olds on how to whack and on top of that I am not buying the supposed benefits.
     
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    They're based on something that your kind have little of, and that's common sense. ;)
     
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    Sheesh, do you really need to have this explained to you? :rolleyes:

    Patters did not say religion has anything to do with teaching kids to whack off; he said it has to do with impacting your opinion of the merits of doing so. Learn to read English already.
     
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    Hey, SFB, religious beliefs have NOTHING to do with a person thinking 5 year olds are a tad to young to be taught masterbation. I guess you need that explained to you. ;)
     
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    UN

    Are there any letters in the English alphabet that bring greater fear to Republicans?

    My thoughts are that what's being proposed makes a whole lot more sense than 'If you touch it like that it'll turn black and fall off.'

    Its the kid's penis and knowledge is power. He can do anything he wants to it as long as he washes his frikkin' hands after.
     
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    Nobody Had To Teach Me How To Jerk Off
     
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    Yeah, but the chickens sure were relieved when you did.
     
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    What makes your common sense right, if it's merely based on your own experiences and emotions? Do you think your common sense applies to everyone? Studies show children who learn about their bodies at a young age are less promiscuous and less often victims of abuse that children who don't learn about that. Do you think you would have been more promiscuous if you were taught about your body, including masturbation, at a young age? What do you think would have happened? And why in the world would you favor common sense over science? That's the mentality of those who believe in folk remedies and the superiority of alternative medicines. Are you one of those?
     
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    So, you're not buying the benefits because....? What do you think you would have been like if you were told about touching (something along the lines that touching yourself in private is called masturbation; that touching yourself in public is inappropriate; and that others touching you in private places is wrong) at a young age? How do you think it would have harmed you? Teaching kids in a rational, scientific way about their bodies will make it a lot easier for them to report abuse and help troubled kids learn messages about behavior and respect they do not learn at home.
     
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    How do these idiots teach a five year old about an orgasm, when they teach them to jerk off, when do they tell them to stop, I couldn't have an orgasm when I was five, was there something wrong with me, whose picture do they show them when they are playing with themselves, do they all jerk off together in the classroom, DOES THE TEACHER JERK OFF WHEN HE'S TEACHING THEM........:singing:
     
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    I looked throught the report and as usual, this is more faux outrage. It lists is a level 1 age group of 5-8 years, and it's not like BAM tell them everything on their fifth birthday. And when you consider that, in some cultures girls normally start conceiving at 12-13 years, then perhaps this doesn't seem quite so early.

    The title of this thread is deceiving: it makes it sound like they will teach little 5 year olds how to masturbate, but in fact does nothing more than explains in relatively simple terms what masturbation is. And it is not just masturbation, it's about various aspects of sexuality, of which masturbation is undeniably just one aspect. Tell me, what proud father has not ever witnessed their young son with a raging woody at some point? Wouldn't make sense to explain to him what's going on? As Patters said, there is a religious roadblock in the way of sensible thinking.

    A more accurate title would be "U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Sexuality to 5-8 Year-Olds" with the stress properly placed as shown. They are not advocating masturbation, they are advocating educating children about sexuality.

    This is nothing more than another debate about sex education.
     
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    They're not teaching kids that. They're basically telling kids about touch -- that strangers shouldn't touch down there, that they shouldn't touch down there in public, and that sometimes when you touch yourself in private it's called masturbation. After all, young kids sometimes get the message that touching down there is sinful or shameful, and a sadly large number of kids get the message that it's okay for daddy or Uncle Foley to touch you down there provided you don't tell anyone. There's evidence in this country that 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused before the age of 18. If a young child has knowledge, it seems to me we will stop a lot of that abuse. Think about it.

    Statistics, Prevalence and Consequences of Child Sexual Abuse
     
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    Look at all the moonbats trying to justify the nonsense of teaching 5 year olds how to beat off. 5 year olds! The best part is none of them probably have kids, and even if they do, I bet they'd be the first to express outrage when their kid showed up from kindergarten, showing mommy and daddy what they learned at "school" today. Man some people are totally ****ed up. Hey, what else would you expect from a crowd that likes to drug up children, for doing abnormal stuff, like behaving like an actual kid. :rolleyes:

    Here you go little boy. Here's some Ritilin, and porno mag. Now go in the bathroom and stroke it. :rolleyes:
     
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    There was an old lady from Cape Cod
    She thought baby's all came from God
    But it wasn't the almighty
    That lifted her Nightie
    It was Roger the Lodger, by God

    If they had taught her how to use a vibrator when she was in kindergarten she would have known it was Roger and not God.
     
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