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    ILB... That's what he was playing when he tore his ACL last year. And that is back where he's at now from everything I've read.

    The more likely choice to move to OLB is Guyton. But we'll have to see what happens.
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    McKenzie played a heck of a lot at MLB in College.

    Don't sleep on the kid, I've been saying it since the season ended.
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    ILB.

    I think he and Spikes are going to have one of the fiercest competitions this year for the early down spot with Mayo.
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    As usual it comes down to what BB is looking for in a 3-4 OLB, McKenzie just doesn't have the length. Now in a 4-3? Yeah, that would work.

    SSDD
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    Nothing like quality depth and a 3-down, 3 star-studded ILB rotation, all 3 will have that much more in the tank in the 4th quarter game in and game out.

    All of this quality youth on both sides of the ball is great. It's keeping the media expectations down, but not the team's expectations and we are going to bite alot of people in the arse this because of it.

    Can't wait to see it all Monday night !
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    I agree and the team will be better for it.

    I have high hopes for Spikes, too. But I am surprised at how many people just seemed to overlook Tyrone McKenzie and just hand Spikes the second inside spot. I'm glad he's kickin' ass.
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    Yeah, I'm just happy about this crazy depth. Last year what did we have next to Mayo ? Guyton and then who was the next guy ? Was it Alexander ? Who played next to Guyton when Mayo was out, I forget. Regardless, we're going from Guyton as a full time starter to him likely playing a small, specific role - although Guyton may be the starter for a while heading into this year.

    ILB and CB are slowly getting stacked with good, young talent.
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    McKenzie has been working out in Will and Spikes has been working out of Mike.. neither of them are going to compete to start alongside Mayo, it will be Guyton for at least the start of the season.
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    Spikes could play OLB too. He has good rushing ability, albeit he doesn't have the 40 time to cover TEs.
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    sigh....i guess all this means that we have to rely heavily on jermaine cunningham at OLB.
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    Would love to see McKenzie be an impact NFL player, his story is one of those feel good things that would be inspirational to many others..
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    Yup, he and cunningham are definite binkies for me.
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    What about Guyton on the outside?? He has speed..............not tall enough or heavy enough maybe?

    If Mayo/Spikes/Mackensie/alexander end up as our top 4 ilbs

    How about TBC/Woods/Ninkovich/ Cunnigham and add Guyton on the outside?

    Leaving Alexander/murrell//williams to make it on teams or displace any of the above.
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    If I remember correctly, Guyton struggled in coverage.. he could improve as he has the speed..
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    Based on the short amount I have seen, he has the potential to be a solid contributor.
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    Guyton does very well in coverage, he struggles taking on OTs and pulling guards at the OLB spot though.
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    We've been through this. Guyton is marginal at every position and situation. He can't set the edge. Hes can't hold the point of attack consistently. He is average in coverage and has trouble reading routes. He is an outstanding backup but just doesn't have the size to stack the line or hold OLs steady.

    There was some conversation on Spikes playing some OLB, but I don't think thats the best way to use him.
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    Chung
    Butler
    Vollmer
    McKenzie
    Tate
    Ingram
    Pryor
    Edelman

    All should be significant contributors in their 2nd years, at least half of them starters. That's looking like a hell of a draft.
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    Unless USF played a 3-4, that's not where he played in college. I can't think of any outside linebacker in our system who wasn't a defensive end in college. they simply are not the same, or comparable positions.

    Our outside linebackers would always be pass rushing defensive ends in college or on other teams (Ninkovich for example)
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    Guyton is better than you're giving him credit for.
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    I don't see Mayo, Spikes, McKenzie, or Guyton getting any regular snaps at OLB.
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    No,it's not going to go this way....Next to Guyton,Mayo,like last year,would be playing out of his natural position.If there's one thing BB is determined to do,it's get Mayo back in place.

    Guyton will be ok as a 3rd down Ilb in some sub-packages,but next to Mayo on running plays..
    un-unh.......same problem as last year.Once the guard/center gets to Guyton,he's toast.Can't shed or penetrate like Mayo...or McKenzie,for that matter.I'm hoping Spikes works out and we get some penetration from Warren/Lewis/Wright at RDE.This will make them pay for double-teaming Wilfork.....The solution to the outside rush,is to solidify the inside.....first and foremost.

    My nightmares were what Buffalo did to us in the first game and what Chad Henne can do,not the Saints and Ravens games.Fix the INSIDE run defense......get some INSIDE penetration at RDE and the OUTSIDE,will fall into place.

    That's the way I see it......can't wait.
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    Spikes was drafted to be the SILB next to Mayo. Not sure why you think it's not the best way to use him..

    As for Guyton, when has he taken ANY significant reps at OLB? He hasn't. He was there for ONE GAME last year against the Seahawks. But you can't be daft enough to think you can judge him on ONE game.

    As for "having the size" Guyton is 6'2 and change and 245+ when he was drafted. He's been with the team a couple of years now and there's a good chance he's playing a bit heavier.
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    Are the "rave reviews" for McKenzie based on more than the one tackle of Maroney?
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    LOL to the people that think Guyton will still be a starter at SILB. They just drafted McKenzie and Spikes because they felt like it. :rolleyes:
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    I think so. From the link i attached:

    "McKenzie has shown a strong ability to get to the ball during his chances in practice."
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    true that. every time i think of guyton i see images of ray rice running all over our linebackers.
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    BB is very picky with who plays OLB for he's system one of the reasons why we have not seen anyone the pats have drafted other then TBC turn into a impact player at OLB


    Tyrone McKenzie, is only 6.2 243lbs not big a nuff to set the edge. i would like to see Guyton, become more of a pass rusher on 3rd and long he did a nice job the few times they blitzed him from the inside last year.
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    We dont typically flip the players when the formation strength changes, Bruschi commented on this the other day. So there really isnt a differene between SILB and WILB since the offense can send the strength to either side.
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