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    It's only been one game post-Moss, and I'm sure there will be times when we all scratch our heads and wish Moss was still a Patriot, but I think it's clear what Bill Belichick has accomplished in trading him. The Patriots have now found an identity. The new face of the franchise is no longer the three-headed monster of Tom Brady, Wes Welker, and Randy Moss. The Pats are no longer fantasy football favorites driven by superstars.

    Danny Woodhead is the best example of a player who embodies the new (actually, it's just the old reinvented) Patriots. With a guy like Moss, how can the Patriots seriously consider themselves underdogs, no-names, or overachievers when Moss embodies dominance, front running, and highlight reels? In fairness, it's not all Moss' fault. Much of it is created by perception... but to say it didn't exist is nuts. I'm actually a huge Moss supporter; I think he gave the Pats a lot of effort and his dedication is underrated. I think they won a lot of games because of him. But, just as several insiders said regarding Belichick's mindset at the time of the trade: it's time to move on. It's clear now what was meant by this.

    Belichick is a master of motivation. He did not win Super Bowls with teams filled with statistical superstars, but rather with underdogs, guys like Vinatieri (undrafted), Brady (6th round), Vrabel (no free agent interest), Harrison (little free agent interest), and too many player to name that were considered washed up or not talented enough to play in the league. Along the way, he cut players like Milloy (at the time the team's best defensive player), benched guys like Glenn (thought to be the team's best offensive player), traded Bledsoe (at the time, the biggest name in franchise history). Those moves, which continued through the golden days, always led to the same conclusion: other guys needed to step up, and they did.

    In the two games since Moss departed (I consider the Miami game a departure), the Patriots have played their best football since 2007, and I think this fan base feels the energy. I know I have not been so proud watching them in a long time. The players also feel the energy and excitement. You can see the younger guys stepping up into bigger roles, realizing that this is "their" team- not a chronically patched up version of a once dominating juggernaut trying to finish what it started three years ago.

    Anyway, that is my nostalgic rant for the night. Had the Patriots lost to Baltimore, maybe I'd be singing a different tune, but when's the last time you felt the team got "lucky" and "got all the breaks"? Is it a coincidence? I seem to recall this theme from furious opponents, ala Terrell Suggs, from 2001-2004 (and perhaps beyond.) I don't think this team will go 14-2, and probably won't win the Super Bowl, but I feel like we have 53 guys to be excited about now, not three.
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    This smiley sums up perfectly how i felt till I got to this part :bricks:
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    Or maybe I said that just to keep up the underdog vibe? I'm sure the players are reading my posts in real-time.
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    Who do you think the person sticking up for Laurence Maroney is? Laurence still visits the site to see if we're better off without him
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    I like the post overall, but Milloy was hardly our best defensive player. He wasn't even our best defensive BACK. He wasn't even our best SAFETY. Again, I appreciate the idea of the thread, but you might want to re-think that Milloy bit.
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    I actually thought one of the impressivethings about that game was that we didn't catch all the breaks. They fumbled the ball twice and they regained control each time. They got the overtime coin toss. Really I think the only break that went our way was the last punt that certainly had a favorable roll.

    Defining break as something that in theory should go either way 50/50. Causing the fumble is not a break but a good effort but where it bounces is a break.
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    Excellent post. I especially loved the part below, very well put:

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    I loved watching Moss in the time he was here but thinking back on it ( fair or not ) Moss has been involved on teams with extremely poor playoff track records.

    Minny lost as a HUGE favorite in the '99 NFC championship game @home ( that year they set a record for most points scored on route to a 15-1 regular season record )

    Minny got absolutely EMBARRASSED in a 41-0 playoff thrashing by the Giants ( never seen a team quit quite like this in the playoffs )

    2007 SB ...nuff said

    2010 Pats got trounced by the Ravens @home
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    Stop with this nonsense already. Do you think anyone wants to read this thread? We're trying to forget Moss, and you come up with this ****ty thread.
    Why not making one saying how the teams has done without post-Samuel or Seymour? We don't care anymore, he doesn't belong to our team anymore.
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    For those who are ad nauseum about Randy Moss threads,remember he returns to Gillette next weekend and if you hated Moss threads last week, you might want to avoid logging into Patsfans next week.
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    Two weeks sans Moss and members are already writing novels?
    So what's next if we miss the playoffs ... Randy Moss horror movies?

    The Randy Mossacre

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    "It's only been one game post-Moss, and I'm sure there will be times when we all scratch our heads and wish Moss was still a Patriot"

    Okay, you lost me right here. :rolleyes:

    Too bad we didn't ship him out before a winnable Jets game...
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    We should have traded him after the game we should have won ... but lost ... because he's gone. which game is it? Stay tuned ... the threads are the barometer of when it happens. The game day thread is the early warning indicator.
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    I doubt there can be any really intelligent Moss loss discussions after only a single game. Let's wait for say 5-6 games to go down before we comment.
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    All Randy wants is the gold, good riddance. You don't want to be here then GTFO!
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    You guys do know that you do have to play against Moss this season...right?

    I think he'll be more than anxious to be a problem for you guys if the good Brett shows up.
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    Jesus.... we do not need Randy Moss


    Legacy> the player now by a great deal.:cool:
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    All some people here want is a bit of respect for a guy who was a huge part of an unbeaten regular season and we'd like people like you to GTFO!
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    The good Brett ... is that little Brett?
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    You're forgetting the Pats did him a favor. There was no love lost by trading Randy. I don't expect him to do anything special in that game.
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