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  1. MrNathanDrake

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    Chad Johnson
    Wes Welker
    Julian Edelman (Wes 2.0)
    Brandon Tate
    Deion Branch
    Taylor Price (played well in his limited time last year)

    That's 6 WR's.


    We could easily ship Wes and not miss a beat. He's older now and didnt have such a great season last year.

    What do you think we could get for West? Would you want to trade him?
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    No. Go away.
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    I've been on this train for a while, but a little more subtly :lol2:
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    Hey, you saw the stats I had a while ago. Welker was half as productive last season when comparing 0 or 1 TEs to 2 or 3 TEs. I'll gladly use 2 TEs every play with Branch and Ochocinco on the outside and get a 2nd for Welker while I can.
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    Welker was coming off major knee surgery, so your analysis is fatally flawed due to that alone.
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    Did your "stats" take into consideration that Welker was still recovering from his ACL/MCL injury? NOPE. Didn't think so...

    This is yet another reason as to why were fans and BB is the coach..
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    The team has a talent issue at wide receiver already. Why would you even think of trading the best of the bunch?
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    Wasn't he running on the same knee no matter how many TEs were on the field?:confused:
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    This is EASILY that wort post in the history of this forum. And that's saying something.
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    I think it might have more to do with how much it will cost to keep him next year if we do indeed trade him.
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    do you need to be linked to the "trade brady" posts?
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    First of all, I think trading Wes Welker is a bad idea. However, why would a knee injury affect him more in 2+ TE formations? Sciz's stats are legit, and it's not like we haven't known forever that Welker is much better in the slot than outside. So, it is conceivable that increased use of multiple TE formations will reduce Welker's overall production. That being said, we ARE going to use 3+ WR formations, and I want Welker as my third receiver!
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    seriously? If I was a mod, I would ban their collective a**es.
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    The number of TEs has nothing to do with Welker recovering from the injury and the injury affecting his production..

    How about this. How about you do the breakdown of 3rd down plays where Welker was on the field in 2 or 3 TE sets and whether or not that production was affected.

    Then tell us whether it was affected SOLELY by the improvement of the TEs on the field or because of his recovering from the knee injury.

    Then ask yourself this. Does the improvement of the TEs make Welker more deadly or less deadly to opposing teams.

    Something else for you to ponder.
    In 2009, Welker had 128 receptions for 1348 yards. The TEs that year had a total of 43 receptions for 546 yards.

    In 2010, Welker had 86 receptions for 848 yards. The TEs had 93 receptions for 1161 yards.

    But there is a big difference.. In 2010, Welker had 7 TDs compared to only 4 in 2009.

    The Patriots offense IMPROVED because Welker was there AND the improvement of the TE position. You take out Welker, who is better than Branch, and you lose that.
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    *sigh* Looking at his "stats" in a vacuum, they are legit. Ignoring the fact that Welker's overall production was down because of his injury makes the argument bunk.
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    BAN him! :eek:
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    Good idea, let's trade our most reliable receiver who also happens to be the receiver our HOF QB trusts the most. As a contender, it would really be a good move...

    Short answer: NO F'N WAY
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    Let's just trade EVERYBODY...then everyone will be happy for a few days...before everyone starts asking to trade everybody new we just got in trade...after all, the NFL IS a business and business involves free trade and....damn...just shoot me now...I can't live through another season of this crap...:stars2:
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    **** this thread ! Welker has been the heart of this offense for a long time now. He is easily our most consistent receiver + a pain in the ass to deal with it. Even if he had a drop in production by his standards he still had a great year all things considered( horrible injury)
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    Hey thread starter, please go back down to your parents basement.
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    I'm not using 2009's stats at all, but ESPN's splits of Welker's production by number of TEs on the field in 2010. I'd have to go find the post with the exact stats, but when taking Welker's stats as a percentage of Brady's (aka, what percentage of Brady's completions and yards were to Welker), he contributed around 30% of Brady's production in 0 and 1 TE sets, and closer to 15% in 2 and 3 TE sets. From a pure numbers standpoint, Welker is right around half as productive in multiple TE sets.

    Branch's numbers aren't as reliable (since I can't just look at Brady's number of TEs splits for the games Branch played in), but with the numbers that were there, his production jumped by about 50% when he played with multiple tight ends. That's a little sketchy, but it at least shows that it isn't a WR-wide thing on the team to lose production with extra TEs.
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    first off...you are immediately going to run into big problems if you try to **** this thread...1)at the present time there is no known world wide web form of contraception...we don't want a bunch of little ba$tard %'s,@'s,&'s and !'s running around underfoot...and 2)there is no way to know if this thread is even of legal age and we don't need any more Sanchez's around here...one's enough...
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    You are like a fart in an oxygen tank ... seriously ... don't think and post.
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    a long season ahead but this could be the worst thread of the year already.

    Here's MrNat from january:

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