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    Interesting article, as I scanned back in my memory.
    Shula also had another QB that is in the Hall of Fame. However, that relationship was less than amiciable. Unitas, the Colts and Shula were like oil and water. So you can't always take a great QB and a great coach and come up with a good team......
     
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    I would probably rate Lombardi/Starr #1, 5 Titles in 7 years.

    I would at this point see BB/Brady > Montana Walsh. If they win another SB it would seal the deal, especially given the FA rules the other guys didn't have to deal with.

    I would also associate Unitas with Weeb Eubank more than Shula.
     
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    Weeb and Unitas took the Colts to two consecutive NFL championships and then Weeb and Namath won SBIII over Shula and Unitas.
     
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    Lombardi/Starr was ridiculously successful, but problem ranking them as a pair is that Lombardi did everything he could to ensure that Starr was not the focus of his offense. That holds them a notch below our guys in my view.

    With Walsh and Belichick, the QBs are much more central, but the Niners practically had a decade long monopoly on Pro-Bowlers, so I don't know how anyone could make a decent case for Montana being more valuable to his franchise than Brady is to the Pats.

    These S.I. lists are so sterile and predictable.

    I've already given this topic a LOT of thought

    MY LIST:
    A: includes college
    B: goes back to the inception of the game
    C: goes beyond the QB position

    Instead of number rankings I've organized my list into levels...(I'll leave off my methodology for each tandem but I've written a ton on this very subject).

    It's just far too subjective to rank these tandems by number...


    Coach and Player Football Hall of Fame

    %ª W L Titles Postseason

    TIER 1
    Camp / Heffelfinger * .964 54 2 2 na
    Warner / Thorpe * .885 23 3 1 na
    Yost / Heston * .989 43 0 4 na
    Brown / Graham ** .850 107 19 7 8-3
    Lambeau / Hutson .736 92 33 3 3-2
    Rockne / Gipp * .889 24 3 2 na
    Belichick / Brady ♣ .762 77 24 3 10-1

    TIER 2
    Gibbs / Riggins .704 57 24 1 6-2
    Lombardi / Starr .730 73 27 5 9-1
    Walsh / Montana .692 63 28 3 10-4
    Landry / Staubach .737 85 29 2 11-5
    Stagg / Eckersall * .865 32 5 1 na
    Shula / Csonka .791 76 23 2 8-4
    Bryant / Namath * .879 29 4 1 1-1
    Halas / Luckman .799 61 15 3 4-0
    Hayes / Griffin * .830 41 8 - 1-3
    Blaik / Blanchard and Davis * .982 27 0 1 na
    Crisler / Harmon * .813 19 4 - na
    Warner / Nevers * .796 21 5 - 0-1

    TIER 3
    Madden / Stabler .744 67 23 1 7-4
    McKay / Simpson * .854 20 3 1 1-1
    Parcells / Taylor .620 85 52 2 8-3
    Osborne / Frazier * .897 35 4 2 2-1
    Shanahan / Elway .750 54 18 2 7-1
    Wilkinson / McDonald * 1.000 31 0 2 1-0
    Noll / Bradshaw .677 107 51 4 14-5
    Zuppke / Grange * .800 20 5 - na
    Collier / Brown .722 32 12 1 1-2
    Leahy / Lujack * .957 44 2 3 na
    Halas / Nagurski .793 59 15 2 2-2
    Stram / Dawson ♦ .658 106 55 2 5-3

    TIER 4
    Johnson / Aikman .575 50 37 2 7-1
    Seifert / Young .707 76 30 1 6-4
    Ewbank / Unitas .605 52 34 2 2-0
    Parker / Layne ◊ .672 43 20 2 3-1
    Neale / Van Buren .713 57 23 2 3-1
    Flores / Plunkett .701 47 20 2 8-2
    Switzer / Selmon * .946 43 2 2 2-0
    King / O'dea * .863 34 5 2 na
    Haughton / Mahan * .926 25 2 1 na
    Haughton / Wendell * .889 24 3 2 na
    Jones / Cagle * .775 31 9 - na
    Daly / Oliphant * .840 21 4 - na
    Warner / Davies * .767 23 7 1 na
    Heisman / Guyon * .938 15 1 1 na
    Warner / McLaren * .968 30 1 4 na
    Meyer / Baugh * .811 30 7 1 2-0
    Sutherland / Goldberg * .867 26 4 2 na
    Bierman / Smith * .813 19 4 2 na
    Anderson / Kinnick * .813 6 1 - na
    Owen / Strong .616 61 38 1 1-5
    Owen / Danowski .651 34 18 2 2-1
    Bell / Walker * .727 32 12 - 2-0
    Wilkinson / Vessels * .855 26 4 1 0-1
    Saban / Kemp ♦ .689 31 14 2 2-1
    Royal / Campbell * .653 23 12 - 1-1
    Grant / Tarkenton .681 77 36 - 7-6
    Levy / Kelly .627 128 76 - 11-8

    ª Ties count as half win and half loss
    * Collegiate record
    ** includes AAFC record
    ♣ through 2006
    ♦ includes AFL record
    ◊ Detroit record only

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