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  1. BradyManny

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    As football nears return, Patriots look to bounce back - The Tony Massarotti Sports Blog, featuring Red Sox, Bruins, Patriots and Celtics analysis

    Mazz checks in, letting us know he still doesn't know much about football, but does know an awful lot about filling articles with rhetorical questions.

    Haters going to hate, I suppose. Just seems rather absurd to question whether we're seeing the "twilight" of Brady's and Belichick's careers given they were both named as the best at the position this past season. I understand it's about the ring - and that this means nothing because of our failure in the playoffs, but it certainly indicates that both are still able to be at the top of their game over the long haul of a season.
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    And now he has something to fill air time with on his show today. People will call and bash him and the four hours will just fly by.
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    Thank you for the link, it was nice to get a refresher on why I stopped reading Boston.com.

    You know, even if we are in the twilight of the Brady/Belichick Era; it's been a hell of a ride and pretty damn enjoyable.
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    This.

    That's my real problem with the sentiment.

    It's one thing to suggest that Brady has a finite number of years left in his career. That much is clear and obvious to anyone. But to suggest that we've entered the "twilight?" His last season was one of the best ever put together by a QB.

    And as for Belichick - anyone who can look at the Pats season last year, a 14-2 season with a young, flawed defense missing key veteran starters, and not think he has his A game is not watching the same team I'm watching.

    Yes. They won't last forever. But the quality of production out of the two has shown no signs of letting up. If anything, you could argue that Brady is playing QB better now than he has at any point in his career.
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    These articles are written for the sole purpose of stirring up the faithful.

    Although I have to say, only in Boston are the local media so frivolously negative about successful home teams. Here in DC, they complain about the Redskins a lot, but it's nothing like the entitled b**ching that goes on in NE (and the Redskins legitimately suck). The writers in NE are like an annoying six year old little brother--they try to piss you off just because they can get attention for it.

    Twilight of an era? We just posted our best regular season in four years. Our team is full of young players with talent. If you think we're in the "twilight," you've either been absent for a few years, or you're just an ***hole trying to provoke people into reading your articles because you aren't good enough to attract readers any other way.
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    I suspect that BB will coach the Patriots for much longer than we imagine. It wouldn't surprise me to see him go 'til he's 65, another seven years. He's a coach and loves it. What else would he rather do?
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    Well, he did say he doesn't see himself coaching 25 years from now (which would make him about as old as JoePa is now).

    And, of course, Michael Lombardi thinks he could easily coach for another decade.
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    Mazz is just peissed off that the Red Sox are going to get pushed to the back burner for the next month and his level of adding to his show will be consisting of "Mike, you're right." Mazz just loves to peiss off the Patriots fans in print.
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    I think there's truth to this. I will give Mazz a ton of credit for getting into the B's the last couple years and becoming at least somewhat knowledgeable on the subject - that's not easy. He has not made such an effort on football. I actually like Mazz on the show, in general - he's a nice foil to Felger's DBaggery. For anything other than football, that is.
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    Felger and sometimes Ryan are the only Boston sports personalities that should venture beyond their primary sport. Mazz barely has a grasp on baseball, he should leave baseball to those that understand it.
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    Felger's an act --- but at least he knows what he's talking about for the most part.
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    Tony Gasbaggarotti...if anyone KNOWS this mutt, tell him I said so too...this clown could get a tongue-asectomy and still never shut up...
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    he is just getting warmed up for the season.
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    It's called a glossectomy. ;)
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    I wish he'd develop fistophobia...put him and Borges in a pit with some rabid chipmunks and let them fight it out...
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    Wow!! You mean Mazz took his head out of Theo Epstein's arse long enough to post some irrelevant NFL puffery? Jeez so sorry I don't have the time (or interest) to read it. ;)
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    Mazz throws out a few facts but doesn't bother with any analysis

    He notes that the Patriots went 14-2 for the best record in football and then "went poof" in the playoffs.

    So were they the best team in football or one against the ropes?

    Neither - they were a team that had weaknesses that overcame/covered those weaknesses in the regular season, often against lesser teams - but when you get to the playoffs, good teams will exploit those weaknesses, and Belichick will do what he can to address those weaknesses in the offseason.

    (This point is related to the debate wherein some think there's no need for a deep threat, noting the team went 14-2 without one, just as they did very well with Reche Caldwell as their #1 WR only to see weaknesses exploited in the playoffs then too. And as we know, Belichick neglected to heed fan advice that WR wasn't a priority going into 2007)

    So what does all of that mean for this season? Not a whole lot since we have no idea what shape the team is in, how good rookies or free agents who have yet to be signed will be. Every single team in the NFL is flawed in some way - and if they start the season as a perfect team, injuries often catch up with them anyways (which is why Belichick's M.O. is to invest in quality depth)

    As far as Brady and Belichick being in the "twighlight" of their careers - I'll give him that.... who knows how much longer Belichick will coach - he's 59 now... Parcells coached until he was @ 64... maybe Belichick goes longer, maybe not - but he will likely be the one to hand pick his successor, so I'm not overly worried about the next coach being a bust.

    Brady meanwhile is soon to be 34 and there's the possibility he's playing his last contract for the Pats... still, Brady at 75% is better than almost every QB in the league - and he could be the rare football freak to maintain his skills past the age of 37 when nearly every other QB has hit a sharp decline. (and of course the larger question isn't whether Brady's good enough to be an NFL starter - it's whether he's the the best QB on the team at any given time, so much of that will be decided by competition on the roster.

    The bottom line if we're looking to last year is the question of whether the Patriots were the best team in football with a 14-2 record, or one one the ropes being ousted by the Jets in the playoffs.

    The answer is neither - and the question of how good a team they are this year has yet to be answered, just as it is every season.
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    Tony Mazz ... :rofl: ... :rofl: ... :rofl: ... :rofl: ... :rofl:

    Tony needs to stop wearing a girdle and get a man's voice.
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    Assuming that Belichick's extension started after the 2007 season, or more easily understood--2008, he is basically only 1/2 way through the extension.

    (extended in 2007) 08, 09, 10

    (still has) 11, 12, 13

    I think we can probably expect another extension (at least as of today's viewpoint), somewhere in the next 2 yrs. That could all change of course, but when you look at his draft/personnel moves, his tendency to look towards the future cannot be viewed as a 'bad' thing in that regard.

    I'm thinking that he will go a little bit past the age of Parcells (64), and I would like to think that he could even consider coaching almost another 8-10 yrs.

    It may be just my opinion, but I think that Belichick is more 'football oriented' as a whole, when compared to the great Parcells. In other words, I think that the game means more to Belichick, and it keeps him going more than in BP's case. Of course IIRC, Parcells also had some health issues to deal with too, and may have felt that the stress was not worth the risk. To me, Belichick seems like a harder-nosed guy in that regard, almost closer to the Dick LeBeau, Joe Paterno end of the spectrum. I'm thinking another 8-10 yrs if I had to guess, but it could be more coinciding with the end of Brady's career too. I guess it's pointless to try and put a guesstimate on it, considering that BB is the only one who has any idea whatsoever.
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    Borges taught them that being resident contrarian will give them a long shelf life... even though it is a half life.
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    I agree 100%.

    Masserotti, like most of the media, is parasitical scum.

    STUPID parasitical scum.

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    There's absolutely no logical rationale behind the popular notion that General Tom Brady's time is short.

    A mutant degenerate Sociopath named Brett Favre just slung 33 TD's with only 7 Interceptions in 2009, at the age of 40.

    Tom Brady is one THOUSAND times more dedicated to conditioning...and to FOOTBALL...than that excrement.

    And for those scoring at home, he's 33.

    ***

    If he merely MATCHES Favre's longevity, that's 7 MORE YEARS OF EXCELLENCE.

    This ain't complicated, people. :rolleyes:
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    I can live with that.

    Another 24 years, then. :D
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    Masserotten...

    Borges...

    Tomase...

    Shaughnessy...


    ALL of the A Holes on 98.5...

    They are all vile, degenerate, parasitical SCUM.

    I wish to HELL that their management had the integrity to CURB their despicable behavior. :mad:

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    In FACT...

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    I'D like to CURB them:

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    Tony Mazzerotti is a sophomoric jerk. He has zero insight nor insider information with the New England Patriots. Mazzerotti's gassing is no different than what most of us do here, unlike serious football reporters.

    Brady and Belichick are linked, of course, but their futures are not co-terminus.

    Tom Brady's shelf-life is closer to its end that its beginning. The guy's been in the league 10 years, proved he was mortal with the lost season and came back to win the league MVP and the vote of his peers as the best in the game for his performance last year. He's got a couple of peak years left and will decline as his body ages. Will he drop off this year? Possibly. Barring major injury, though, he's a solid bet to be top five again at his position in 2011-12.

    Belichick could coach for another 15 years if he talkes care of himself and he keeps the passion. Belichick is an all-out football geek who looked smarter and more into it last season as he coached up that defense of young, fast, inexperienced players into becoming a terrific unit that got better as the season progressed. He also did a very good job as GM/coach by dumping Moss/re-acquiring Branch and retooling the offense to score more points and present greater problems for his defensive brethren across the field.

    Tony Mazz gets all this wrong. He should stick to baseball. He should also grow up. The weird sexist stuff that comes out of his mouth on the radio is like listening to an 8th grader and his delight in making fun of the Mayor of Boston is embarrassing. Tony Mazz works in the toy department. He could no more coach a team of men nor run for office, nor govern a major US city than the man in the moon. He should wise up and do his job, not ridicule or speculate on how others do theirs.
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    Never ceases to amaze me how well this guy has done, most nauseating voice and absolutely no ability to engage the listener...

    But of course there is little of that anymore on Boston Sports Talk Radio, more of a focus on shock and hyperbole than on facts..
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