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  1. pats1

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    According to Andy Hart on PFW in Progress today, after Belichick had a short on-field press conference with the press there (Hart, Perillo, Casale, 2 from Globe, 2 from Herald, Pires, NECN, Patriots Today), Belichick had a 1-on-1 interview with Reiss. Following that, Tomase pulled aside BB and had about a 45-second exchange with Belichick, who didn't look particularly mad or happy. Tomase then talked with Dean Pees, who Tomase once wrote a big piece on.

    PFW in Progress thinks that every effort will be made to keep Tomase on the beat, but it might not work out.
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    BB probably said the same thing to tomase which he said to tom jackson.
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    45 seconds doesn't make up for 4 months of chaos.
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    I hope so....
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    "Bill, I'm sorry that my false report may have been (partly) responsible for your team not being as focused as they should have been for the Super Bowl, and might have helped keep you from going down as the greatest team in NFL history. I'm really, really sorry. Friends?"


    Yeah.... that'll work.
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    Belichick then raised his right hand, with two fingers extended and Tomase collapsed to the ground, choking until he passed out. Someone overheard BB say: "Apology accepted Captain Donut"...

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    :eat1:

    Very true
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    That is too funny.:rocker::rocker:
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    I don't really chime in on this stuff much, but I was at the players hotel the day before the SB when all that stuff broke, and I'm not sure how much you know about the whole pre-SB prep environment (I know I didn't beforehand) but believe me, it is chaos (and had nothing to do with Tomase's article.)

    No one is watching TV or listening to talk radio. They are doing last second game prep and seeing their family off and getting ready to board a bus to be absconded off to some other secluded hotel.

    Even the mood in the hotel, with the fans, no one was buzzing about the latest SpyGate rumors. There wasn't a blink about it in the eye of the storm.

    I'm confident it had 0.00% to do with the loss.
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    Well, given that I've seen the impact late breaking stories have had on teams in the past, I don't share your confidence. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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    This is great. Tomase's stomach must've been in knots for the days leading up to this. He approaches BB and starts sweating like two squirrels phucking in a wool sock and BB just stares at him. ...no smile, no frown, just ice. BB gives him just enough to place a slim ray of hope for forgiveness in his rattled brain, but leaves enough unsaid to make him wonder if he'll ever get more than one word answers from a sure fire HOF coach. Turn the screw slowly BB and be sure it stops to rust many times on the way in.
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    I am guessing BB listened, responded "it is what it is" and walked away.
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    Bill to Tomase:

    John look, it is what it is, and it was what it was.

    Unfortunately John what you said it was and what it really was were different.

    John, you had 3 months to clear up what you said it was vs what it is and what it was.

    John ... you failed in all 3 areas of the game. You failed in:
    What it was
    What it is
    and
    What it will become.

    Therefore John it is clear that because it is what it is,
    and because it was what it was,
    you are what you are, which John is irrelevant to the Patriots orginization.;)
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    Well, as we all know, the players always tell fans hanging around their hotel exactly what is going on the day before the superbowl, so you are probably right :rolleyes:

    THis was the day before the superbowl, but you are 100% confident that no player talked to his spouse or saw a newspaper or talked to a reporter or had any contact with the outside world for 36 hours until the superbowl?

    Are you a new fan or do you remember Chuck Fairbanks?
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    Best. Analogy. Ever.
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    Journalism 101. Don't apologize for a career blowing mistake with an apple fritter hanging out of your pocket.
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    Journalism 101...get the facts RIGHT!!! he even blew that again 3 pounds??? FAILED again!! he is irrelevent to me...
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    We know the coaches and team staff were required to address this when they should have been preparing for the game. That certainly didn't help.

    I'm not naive enough to think that the players wouldn't have known about a such a significant story - nor that once they knew the context of the story it wouldn't have a significant impact on the players.

    These are not dumb guys - there's no question they would have known the implications of that story immediately, which served to cast even MORE doubt on their previous Super Bowls after after a long hard fought perfect season, with the story making headlines on the eve OF the Super Bowl.

    No one can speak for all the players but there's no way this wasn't a major issue of concern to at least SOME of the players.
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    I mean, WTF, the eve of the SB you got this Walsh thing but even more troublesome must have been the threat of congressional hearings and calling your star QB and HC to the stands. I mean , WTF.:mad:
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    Very true. Jonathan Kraft even mentioned that it interfered when he did that WEEI interview a few weeks ago.
    I don't blame the loss on this at all, but to say it wasn't a distraction for the staff and took away some from their preparation for the game at the very least is hard to imagine.
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    I am sure there is a need for greater reparations than a 45 second face to face.. not sure he will be all that effective as a pats sports beat writer.. the damage he has done to this franchise is irreparable right now and will take a long time to get better.
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    That's what I would have done....
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    I don't know if this is really the best example to offer, considering that this particular distraction had very little to do with the media at all. The distraction was based on a chaotic scene in the locker room just beforehand, with Erhardt and Bullough as co-head coaches and Fairbanks still in the locker room, and the players wondering what the hell was going on. The Super Bowl was really a completely different situation.
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    I was a newspaper reporter for 17 years, including several years covering sports. It blows my mind that Tomase's still on the Patriots beat -- or even has a job with the Herald -- after his stupendous fiasco. The whole episode challenges my perception of reality on a daily basis.
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    i think its even worse when its your hometown paper.i heard the other day that during the 85 SB borges had info about pats players and drugs but he was asked be the coaches to hold off on it and he did. it later hurt him that someone else ran with the story but inspite of being borges he did the right thing.
    here we have our own beat writer printing something without evidence and then waiting for 3 months to clear it up.
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    Was Tomase wearing knee pads?
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    The problem with your account is Jonathan Kraft has already stated publicly that it interfered with the last second game prep you speak of. Coaches and team staff had to meet with NFL officials and address Tomase's made up accusation.

    My opinion is it did not cost them the game but it is just an opinion. No one will ever be able to quantify the impact it had.
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    No one will ever be able to say with certainlty if it had an impact or not. My own guess is that there must have been some impact, but that it didn't lose the game for us.
    But, the related issue is, Tomase and the Herald ran the story expecting it to have an impact, not just on the team but on the assembled media, thereby generating publicity and sales for Tomase and the Herald. And that is unforgiveable in my book.
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    Yeah, the wierd thing is players have been on record as stating that it didn't have an impact while Jonathan Kraft did. I don't know who to believe.
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    Interesting. Tomass is radioactive in the Patriots Locker Room and has backed himself into a corner elsewhere. If the "NFL beat" is his "thing," then it's going to be difficult, if not impossible, for him to get a job with a major paper or even a second-tier rag like the Herald in another town. Any NFL manager, coach or player is going to wait a long time before they trust him with anything other than answers at Press Conferences, so he wouldn't be able to develop locker room or management sources for a long time. That's how shoddy his reporting was.

    I'm amazed that he's still covering the Pats, but I guess the Herald is trying to see if the situation can be fixed, which I imagine it can't. At some point, though, the paper is going to have to decide whether they want to spend premium money on a guy who delivers nothing that couldn't be gotten by an 18 year old intern with a digital recorder at Press Conferences, working for minimum wage. Too bad, huh?
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