Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by RhodyPatriot, Nov 28, 2010.
It's no wonder BB doesn't hire coordinators.
Curran: McDaniels drags Pats into 'Son of Spygate'
He got points with me for this line:
In terms of public figures I would genuinely enjoy meeting in an alley, Curran in pretty high up there but I was surprised by how he closed. It's amazing what controversy is coming out of simple gamesmanship. Every competitive team out there from college to the pros has a videography department. Some are more cloak and daggers than others, but those that are pose another layer of distraction to their opponent and therefore more effective. Every ounce of human capital you can take away from an opponent is a victory. I'm just amazed that there is such outrage at this as it is commonplace in every high level form of competition.
It's pretty much because a lot of people on the internet didn't play a sport at any level. Hell, I remember coaches trying to decipher another team's signals when I was playing football at the pee-wee level. This really isn't anything new, and it's been highlighted as such by Jimmy Johnson.
Anyway, **** Josh McDaniels for throwing his mentor under the bus to save his own ass. What a truly low piece of garbage he is.
Everybody in the NFL was doing this. The Patriots got whacked and whacked hard because they ignored a league memo that reminded all teams to stop the practice.
Regarding McDaniel, does ANYONE actually buy the "I threw my hands up to cover my eyes and threw my rouge coach out of my office when he tried to show me his rogue taping that he initiated on his own"??? :rofl:
Joshy is not only a disloyal rat but he's a liar.
Reiss also please report for duty
iMO the Pats have been told by the league not to comment which makes matters worse We need perspective like Curran is providing tonight.
This is a Broncos issue aka the implosion of McDouche. No way Scar jr acted alone but this matter is now closed by the NFL.
The Patriots got whacked because of how they did it and where they did it. If they had, for instance, wrote down the signals, the down and distance, the play, and where the play went in a notebook and detailed it, that would be legal and would have been just as effective as video tape. And no, nobody buys that from McDaniels. My opinion of him went down the toilet today. He is, by definition, a rat. A rat fleeing a sinking ship will do anything to save it's own ass. McDaniels, the rat fleeing the sinking ship in Denver due in part to his terrible decisions, decided to throw his mentor (the guy that gave him a detailed print out on how to be a head coach and taught McDaniels everything he knows) under the bus to take some of the pressure off of himself.
Josh McDaniels has jumped the shark. He's sinking fast in Denver and is willing to throw anything or one overboard to save his skinny little ass. What a Pu$$y
Somewhere in a Foxboro area ranch style home, Matt patricia gently weeps.....BB wont ever recommend anyone for a HC position
Scar Jr I see a future as a wedding video guy for you.....
..smile for Unca Scar kids.....
So that's where Scars kids got their video passions from...
Josh Mcdouche, assistant coach of the year 2012, East Bumfukk High School
All kidding aside Dante Scar is a very nice man. The Delta flight crew that does the Patriots charters love him.
We had to change our signals in the little league tournament when I was 13 because one of our guys told one of his friends on another team all of them. :lol2:
Mangini and now McDaniels. Zero loyalty.
Surprising, I thought JMcD really thought a lot of BB and went out of his way to tell everyone that.
There's an old saying that a person's true character shows during adversity, not success - I guess this is just another example of that.
I gave McDouche 3 years. He's ahead of schedule.
Yet somehow, like Mangini, he'll get a head coaching gig elsewhere.
I have always defended McDaniels, but he definitely crossed a line with his comments to his staff. He definitely Manginied this situation by acting like a rat on a sinking ship and selling out whoever he can to escape.
It is pretty bad when even Tony Dungy chastizes McDaniels for talking out of school about how Belichick runs his organization.
The sad thing, McDaniels probably exaggerated what he was saying to make himself look better but he really sold out the guy who made him what he is just like Mangini did.
I am not quite ready to throw McD under the bus yet.
All this is based primarily on Glazer's report. That report is, to me, ambiguous. Probably deliberately ambiguous to provide maximum publicity.
Many people seem to be taking the report to imply the Pats taped practices, since the "difference" between Pats and Broncos was portrayed as planned vs spontaneous. And that is what has sparked the outrage. (If the outrage was due to the statement the Pats taped signals in an organized ongoing manner... then noone was paying attention in 2007 when all that was disclosed.)
But it was not in McD's interests to point out that taping another team's presumably-secret practice is a MUCH worse offense than taping the same signals tens of thousands of people could see in plain sight. That is why he supposedly said jobs were on the line.
McDaniels stupidly threw his staff under the bus in front of the owner recently. That made him some enemies who made this public and controlled the message.
So until there is a better indication exactly what McDaniels did and did not did not say I will withhold final judgement.
Please merge all these damned spygate II threads I don't want to deal with this crap.
but wait!!!!....Joker The Unpredictable is about to predict!!!!
I see SPYGATE III...THE CYBORG CAMERA QB at which time it will be revealed that Matt Cassel actually had small iris implants that allowed him to see surrepticiously taped camera shots right on the surface of his eyeballs that allowed the Patriots to cheat their way to an 11-5 record when Brady went down....I KNEW something was fishy about that...
A report of what went on in a staff meeting taken as gospel? What's the motivation of this supposed informant - long-term career success in the NFL after whoever it is leaves Denver? McDaniels didn't report this incident to the NFL, the reason for his penalty, and told Peter King (aired at halftime) directly in response to Glazer's report that he wasn't in the loop on video practices with the Pats so really couldn't make the statement he is now accused of making.
I did read that if Broncos fire JMcD this year, then next year they will be paying for the new coach, Josh and Mike Shanahan still!
Got to wonder if they will stay with Josh for one for year, stupid thing to do, but possible!
So we all knew McDaniels is a failure as a Head Coach, but now we find out he fails as a human being too. Way to go, Josh!
Was hoping that when McDaniels was fired, NE might bring him back as OC... would suspect that that bridge has been burned.
Classless move by McDaniels.. ESPN will love it though.
just when we thought this was all dead and buried, mcdaniels screws it all up... feel bad for him, because he was riding high when they beat us last year, now he has hit rock bottom... He is going to get fired... And now we will have to hear from the ny media all week instead of how big of game this is, is this spy gate crap...
But then again it could serve as a rally cry and we crush the jets....:rocker:
The whole thing needs some damn perspective and always did.
The fact of the matter is that by this time of the season, any team should have tape on about 600 or so plays of the opposition on both side of the ball. A handful of plays in a walkthrough is a fraction of what is to be garnered from that.
If you look back at the Spygate hoopla, most of the crap-stirring was from those with no experience in the game. [And if it was ex-players, it was those without any intelligence at all (Marshall Faulk).] The average football fan doesn't understand that with proper film-study, these guys generally know what they are up against more often than not. The Patriots video taping practice was just one small facet of their film-study.
And to be honest, their offense has gotten better without it, any way you look at it. The reality is that it might've been a waste of resources, not to mention something that could be used against them by a team with knowledge of said practice - which I am sure most did given how the Belichick/Parcells coaching tree is spread across the NFL.
I never really understands this whole spygate crap anyway... why doesnt people realize the coaches get video tape every week... Belichick was just smarter than everyone else because he changed with the times... I think its been blown out way out of proportion in a lot of ways... So Belichick did during the game, but he didnt break it down at halftime there is not enough time... idiots...
Yeah Big Mike, I wonder about this too. Why would Scar jr. tape the walk through on his own? why would the NFL simply accept this explanation? I think Scar jr. is the fall guy.
If memory serves, the Pats were punished for taping signals. The accusations of taping the SB walk through turned out to be made up by a guy desperate for attention. Right?
Broncos owner says McDaniels has a great career ahead of him in Denver, which of course means he's about to be fired.
The technicality that got the Pats in trouble was camera location, not subject of filming.
That whole spygate thing was all about bringing a record setting and unbeatable Patriots team down by jealous adversaries.
It was a witch hunt, plain and simple.
The Pats have not violated any technicalities since then so I don't worry about what boogers JM may or may not be wiping on them,
Right. It's coming back to me now. I've tried hard to forget it. The problem was camera location and videotaping, because as someone else pointed out, you can steal signals just not videotape them.
We all know it's about jealousy and probably some dislike of Belichick. Much ado about nothing then and now. But what got it started was Matt the lier and his claim that the Pats had videotaped the Rams walkthrough.
The walk through taping rumor came after the fact. Right before the Super Bowl, in fact. That's when Matt Walsh the a$shole told somebody very important that he had some videos that the NFL would "..Really want to see" and that's when speculation ran to fever pitch.
This fan base was facing our team being stripped of it's championships and it's head coach banned from football.
Why the charge of slander was never levied at our accusers is beyond me. I suspect back room deals but I could be wrong.
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