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    It has become major problem in the last few years. For whatever reason, in big games with the lead, he is unable to get the game ending first down to seal the deal.


    * I won't even bother getting into the fact our defense may be the most unclutch in NFL history.
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    It's hard to close out games when your oc calls stupid plays and your offensive line sucks.
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    it's hard to get into a rhythm when the game is being called by 4 yr olds
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    Its hard to put that last drive on Brady. What the hell was that blocking scheme about?
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    Give me a freaking break, what part of that last offensive drive was Brady's fault?
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    This loss is on the Refs inability to make proper calls and Wilfork and the front 7 with an absolute dreadful 2nd half.

    Brady is always the scapegoat around here.

    Brady had a second down and 14 yards after another penalty in thier final posession to win the game but both plays included blitzes by the Ravens which the OL could not handle.

    How is Brady supposed to complete a first down when he had less than 1 second before the blitz arrived?
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    To blame that on Brady is ludicrous, he was surrounded by Ravens, the Oline has to do a better job blocking.
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    oline folded in the final drive when they needed it
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    if only we had clock killin' Corey Dillon
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    It's always the same thing. We think the Pat are a balanced team, but they're not. When push comes to shove, they won't run the ball because they're afraid it won't work, and usually it doesn't. Brady played an A+ game tonight, where exactly did he go wrong? It is situations like these where you just need a guy to rip off seven yards on first down, and then you can use playaction.

    The struggles the Pats have in the playoffs, in close games on the road, etc, is always because teams know they are one-dimensional, and when the game is on the line, they can't run the ball. Too much is expected of Brady. He's put in a situation where he shouldn't be forcing a ball into coverage (because of the interception risk), yet defenses aren't giving him anything underneath. That's why these drives always incur sacks or throwaways.
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    Why can't Brady just Peyton Manning the play at the line?
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    Please explain how it's Brady's fault that Ridley had a 1 yard run on first down and Brady got sacked on 2nd down, leading to a 3rd and 16....
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    Well, we were using the hurry up offense, so we would have played Woodhead instead of Dillon.
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    Hurry up offense while trying to kill the clock? What?
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    I'm going to repost my earlier post here because it is appropriate:

    I said it last week, now I am vindicated, Brady is now one of the biggest chokers in the game. Yes, yes, I know, the homers will point to games where he has come up with a drive late in the game when they are behind. The Dallas game last year for example. The real problem is that when they are already down, there's nothing to lose. And he can function. But I have never seen a quarterback fail as consistently as Brady when he has the slim lead late and just needs one solid drive to ice it.

    Think back about how badly he crumbles in these big moments. Against the colts on the famous 4 and 2. Against the colts in 10 he couldn't engineer a drive to close it out, James sanders saved him with a pick though. Against the giants last year in both the regular season and the super bowl his drives sputtered giving the ball back to Eli with just enough time left. Against the colts in the 06 championship game he needed just one more first down and couldn't get it. Against the ravens last year in the title game he could not ice it, instead he threw incomplete to Hernandez which gave flacco time for that final drive that ended with a missed kick.

    Then you have tonight, all Brady needed was one or two first downs. But he could not muster it. It is a definite pattern. And it has been a pattern since the acl injury. He sees phantom rushers and ducks under for no reason, or ducks under before the rusher gets there where a calmer qb who can actually operate under pressure would have side stepped. The worst part is that if that play happens during the middle of a game, Brady side steps the rush like a champ and throws a strike downfield. But when he has to protect a lead, he flounders. He's too worried about messing up a lead that is pre existing.

    I don't know what the solution is except to start taking the ball out of his hands late and get a better running game. Or, you just have to try and throw non stop early and build a big lead when there is less pressure and he feels more comfortable to operate.
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    Yeah, it's still a garbage post, no matter how many threads you put it in.
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    Easy. Brady knows the situation. Ravens desperately need a stop and they're well known to be a blitzing team. They showed blitz up the middle. You mean to tell me he couldn't check out or call out to a tight receiver to be the hot read. It's like he gets tunnel vision, but I don't know what the hell he's looking at in the tunnel.
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    great..now the idiot is in this thread as well
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    See, this is exactly the sort of reason that your argument sucks. The Ravens got pressure because the blocking failed, not because Brady didn't check out of the play.
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    You looked bad the first time you posted this, now your just looking like a troll, go home and go to bed.
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    I rarely insult another member with words,but your post makes you a full blown idiot,any which way you dice it up.
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    Kinda hard for the O-line to do anything when the Ravens are bringing 7 or 8 guys.. Which is what they were doing when the Pats had 5 wide. It's what the Ravens did when they stuffed the run game for a loss at their 4 yard line.

    The play-calling at times was pretty iffy.. Which is too bad.

    And the clock management under 3 minutes was horrible. But McDaniels has been that way his entire career.
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    It seems to me that a seasoned quarterback would have a backup option in case, wait for it, one of the most aggressive defenses in the league applies pressure up the middle and succeeds in winning one on on battles like they're known to do. That back up plan would be an elementary hot read or dump off option.

    I'm sure you're familiar with it, Ray Rice played that role for Baltimore pretty well in the passing game. And no it's not all about his skill. It's about putting the right options in place in the right situations.
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    You pretty clearly weren't actually paying attention to the game.
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    I still fail to understand why a screen pass would not have been the answer in that possession to win the game.

    It's not like we don't have the personel to do it but Brady way too often is being asked to carry the game on his shoulders,it should have been up to a RB to get them into FG range to ice the game.

    The Ravens sent out a blitz,if a screen was used there might have been a good chance that the right side might have been open for a decent gain.
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    Did you see the play where Brady and Ridley were both sacked at the same time executing a handoff? There is no time to get a play off in that situation. It would have been the biggest clusterfck of the game if it wasn't for the refs. Stop posting stupid crap.
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    It kills me, and it's not just you, that no one will criticize Brady or BB no matter what. It's like people have built them up to a religion and crossing them will result in them smiting you. They make mistakes, blow calls and have skills that erode over time. It happens, and it is okay to mention it.
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    Do you even think before you post?
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    he is a ratbird fan disguised as a pat fan
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