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Tom Brady has never lost in cold weather games (games played under 32 degrees)

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    I believe Tom has NEVER lost in his career in games played under 32 degrees and this weeks game will certainly fall under that temperature and apparently will be more like 12 degrees come gametime.

    I was not sure what the temperature was in Denver 2 years ago when NE lost the divisional game but I assume it was warmer than 32.

    I want just frigid cold and no snow,That gives NE the ultimate advantage,Both home and cold against a warm climate team.
     
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    Bad weather can lead to more mistakes as well. I'm pretty sure the Chargers defense would rather play under adverse conditions than perfect weather against the Pats offense.
     
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    Why you're a warm weather team.
     
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    Bad weather will give the defenses the advantage and can turn games into defensive battles. In tight games like that anything can happen.
     
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    I'm sure being from San Diego you have a hard time understanding this, but cold weather is not necessarily the same thing as bad weather. The cold won't make too much of a difference, it might piss off some fans and make the ball harder to catch at times, but thats about it.
     
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    The Patriots unlike some other cold weather teams(GreenBay) acually practice in the elements they are going to play in.( cold, rain, snow, sleet, wind) etc. so they'll be prepared to play in any conditions. So its not a disadvaantage for the Pas to play in the cold . I guarentee they'll be out there in the snow and cold this week.
     
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    way to try to throw a jinx on the team by this thread
     
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    The best possible weather for us would be
    Very Cold (0 degrees)
    Snow on the ground (it had snowed earlier in the day)
    No rain or snow in the air
    No wind
     
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    Ya, and Custer never lost a battle at any location that had either the word "little" or "big" in it.

    You can't write the future by regurgitating the stale past. All you can do is hope, just like everybody else.
     
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    Biggs, say it ain't so (that you're a Black Cat guy weeing in the corner because cat pissed on your lawn.)
     
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    Absolutely, and it's not a matter of the Pats being a "dome team." Adverse conditions tend to favor the weaker team by increasing the overall randomness in the game. Look at the Jacksonville game. That team played exceptionally well, stayed smart and disciplined, executed their game plan to perfection. It just wasn't enough against a superior opponent on a clean field. But throw in some gusts of wind, some slippery footing, and who knows?

    That said, cold alone doesn't worry me a bit.
     
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    Bad weather is an equal factor for both sides. An offense that throws the ball most of the time can be the most affected by bad weather. If the weather affects the Pats passing game it diminishes the Pats ability to make big plays through the air which is the Pats main advantage over other teams.
     
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    Bad weather is but not COLD weather. I suppose Tampa Bay won so many games in the Playoffs the past decade plus they've travelled to GB, NY, Philly. How about those Seahawks game in GB.

    Last I checked Brady went 26/28 vs Jax and without a BIG play. The running game, Welker, Watson, Faulk, Stallworth carried the load.

    Don;t fool yourself into weather being an equalizer. Home field advantage will be huge for Pats.
     
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    That's because the Jags took away the downfield passing game in how the defended the Pats. The Pats took what was given.

    With really bad weather long passes down the field won't be prudent and the defense would focus on defending the short to intermediate passing game and 26-28 will never happen with a defense geared to stopping those types of plays.
     
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    I think people forget that players usually aren't born in the state in which they now play football. Plus, in modern FA players are changing so often that a player could go from SD to NE from one year to the next, kinda like Seau. Are you going to say he will suck in the cold because he's from SD? nope. These players have played in it all and have seen it all. Their playbook may be effected by snow or rain but for the most part they'll play just like normal. Now, considering the longball is all but taken away in poor weather it should be a closer game than a lot of people think.
     
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    The body has a higher water content in warm weather.
    It takes about 2 weeks for the body to equalize itself and acclimate to the cold weather.

    The Patriots have been playing in Cold Weather since the middle of November, live and train in that weather.

    The Chargers have played in ZERO cold weather games this year.

    It doesn't matter "where someone went to school" unless you're talking about playing in the snow, which is typically something that only comes with experience.

    It's not expected to snow, except for a chance of "Snow Showers" which isn't close to the same thing.

    Edit: There is a huge difference between "bad" weather and "cold" weather.
     
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    Here's what I was trying to say: IF we assume you're right that sloppy weather affects both teams equally, then it follows that sloppy weather favors the Chargers. Because the Patriots are heavily favored overall, and adding randomness to the outcome improves the odds of the weaker team winning.

    Think of it this way: suppose you decided to skip a game and decide the outcome with a coin flip. Turning to complete randomness works to the favor of WeakerTeam by eliminating StrongerTeam's advantage altogether. Similarly, WeakerTeam has a better chance in a game that's decided by 50% skill, 50% randomness than in a straight skill battle.

    So personally, I'm rooting for mild weather because I think a storm would affect both teams equally, and I think my team is stronger.
     
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    Your belief is wrong, though it's a special case and not terribly significant. Though the stat itself is not terribly significant considering the relatively small number of games he's played less than 32 degrees.

    Miami 28, Patriots 26. 1/1/2006 25 degrees at gametime.
     
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    Bad weather and cold weather aren't the same thing. Bad weather tends to weaken both teams and the weaker team is brought closer to the stronger team. Cold weather doesn't work that way. Cold weather traditionally hurts dome/warm weather teams. If you're not use to it, you become distracted, you're not used to the twists it puts on the game (muscles get tighter, have to control and shivering or you'll get tired, harder ball, etc).

    San Diego is about as far from a cold weather team as you can get. The Chargers haven't played in freezing weather since 2004. It will effect them at least somewhat.

    Wind on the other hand probably hurts the Patriots more (its more of a bad weather feature although it also makes it colder) since it'll decrease the accuracy of long passes and thus decrease the Moss threat.
     
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    Great post, totally agree. But FWIW, I believe the Chargers game at Arrowhead this year was sub-freezing.
     
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