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    http://www.exchristian.org/

    This site is great. Hundreds of testomonies of former Born Again Christians. (Many are former missionaries and former pastors as well) You can sort them by "Why they left", "What denomination they were", "Why they got indoctrinated in the first place" etc.

    3 to be may be posting his anti-testimony there in the near future.

    Come on out of the Matrix dude.

    http://www.ex-christian.net/
     
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    thank for bumping up the Grace Like Rain video. its great, asint it? Todd Agnew is terrific.

    Praise Jesus this beautiful Sunday morning.
     
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    Jesus may tell you, "Away from me I never knew you"

    Biblically speaking you have no way of knowing if that is not about you. Fortunately for you it is all a fantasy, and that won't happen to you, because Jesus is no more real than Santa Claus.



     
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    Grogan, what happened in year 22?
     
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    Again, it was over a long period of time. I only finally admitted out loud to myself that it was bull in year 22.

    The Bible is demonstrably evil, and demonstrably false. The god of the Bible is actaully a man made monster created by a barbarian tribal race at the time. This "god" kills babies, orders Moses to put human heads on stakes in front of the people, instructs the Israelites to kill entire civilizations including every man, woman, child, and infant over and over and over. This god sends 2 rabid female bears to rip apart to death 42 "little children" (KJV) for teasing a prophet. This god drowns the entire human race (except 8 people) including babies. He has anger, wrath, jealousy, bitterness, vengefulness, bloodthirst. He has them rip apart animals, and asks them to ritualistically sprinkle the blood and dance around in very specific ways. It is absurd! It should be obivous to someone with a brain, that primitive people were making up this crap.

    This god feels we deserve to be tormented for all eternity because Adam and Eve took a bite from a piece of fruit in the Garden of Eden? We are now totally depraved. We did not ask to be created.

    The bottom line is, if the Bible's story about "reality" is true, then god's little project of creating this universe and all his little creatures is a rediculous disaster that makes the Big Dig look like an amazing success story.

    If the Bible is true god's project of creation is an utter train wreck.

    Shouldn't you be at church?

    You think you are so cute, with your "what happened in year 22?" The Bible is the CURE for the disease of Christian belief. You are sick right now. You need to be healed. I believe you will come out. How long have you been a CHristian?

     
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    I guess i stopped "using my brain" 2 years ago.

    we'll be leaving for church in about a half hour, after that i'll be planning my torture of women and children with the pet bears ive been training in the backyard.

    please keep talking while im gone.
     
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    You have only been a Christian for 2 years? How old are you? Seriously we need to talk more. Are you still single?

     
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    Do you realize dude, that you just rediculed your own Bible and God?

     
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    no, i ridiculed you and your assessments.
     
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    No. You actually did ridicule your God and Bible. You made it clear that it would be a ghastly thing for you to do, to send angry bears to hurt anyone. Yet, your Bible says your God did this, and hundreds of of other horrible things!

    You know it is wrong! You really do! You also, cannot debate one lick. You do not even address or defend the horrors of your God.

    I don't need to "assess" anything and I haven't. I simply read them and share them. There is NOTHING to assess. It is wrong to KILL BABIES!!! It is wrong to send reabid bears to KILL CHILDREN! You KNOW this. Your Bible says your God DID THIS!!!!!

     
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    now, about your last paragraph...this is a 40 year old man i should listen to?
    btw, whats your view on abortion?
     
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    I am against abortion. I don't like it. you?

     
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    absolutely not. at least you are consistant about that. I was just curious.
     
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    Wait a second. Are you consistent, that it is wrong to Kill babies?

     
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    You know its kind of funny. You are against abortion (so am I) You should certainly be against sending rabid female bears to rip apart 42 little children, no matter what "Being" you are. Certainly you could not be "Omnibenevolent" if you did such a thing. Yaweh did it! (of course he actually did not, as he does not exist the same way Zeus or RA does not exist)

    And you are accusing me of consistency issues. Gawd!

     

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