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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    Thank you. Today and every day.


    Arlington National Cemetery
    Section 60

    A lone house-key, a melting Twix,
    two Miller Lites, a crucifix.
    A fifth of rum, a pack of Kools,
    report cards from Chicago schools.

    Four hard-backed books, a tear-stained poem,
    a cell phone programmed to call home.
    Three dozen letters never read,
    a pillow from a double bed.

    A Barbie doll, eight Lego cars,
    Nine lightening bugs in Mason Jars.
    Six polished stones, a strand of beads,
    a planter filled with apple seeds.

    Two coffee cups that catch the rain,
    five Red Sox caps, a plastic train.
    Eight birthday cards, a catcher's mitt,
    a sweater someone's mother knit.

    Four thousand pictures creased and torn.
    One wedding veil that won't be worn
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    My bro in law is a photographer, one of his pictures I cherish, is a combat boot in the foreground, with a rose stuck in the Viet Nam War Memorial... know too many kids who died there...

    Coincidentally my neighbor turned 90 yesterday, and I got him a flag flown over congress for his birthday.. he and another friend who is 92 were sharing some time together... amazing even they see the parallels between Afghanistan and Viet Nam... didn't even have to bring it up...

    Sometimes when they are mellow they will talk about WWII, very amazing stories.. these will all fade soon.. take some time talk to a vet, and understand what they went through.. their was no talk of PTSDT after WWII. My neighbor liberated one of the concentration camps, and had to wait to go to Berlin after the Russians did, never got over that.

    Thanked them for their service, both were in all 5 major battles in the European theater... both were airborne soldiers.

    My father was in on D-Day, he brought cofferdams to be sunk off of Normandy to help quell the waters.. never conceptualized what he actually did until I went to the D-Day Museum in Nola, one of my favorite pictures was him in a Diving Bell off of Italy.. he sustained permanent lung damage from that, he was hospitalized in Italy for several weeks for "Pneumonia"... but he always knew they screwed up the gas mixture..
     
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    I hope we can all agree that the fewer ultimate sacrifices, the better a country we are. They should only be in harm's way when absolutely necessary - not on the basis of a lie or an ill-considered policy. (Yes I mean BOTH of our current major wars, and no, I DON'T want to devolve into which president is worse on that count.) Regardless of president, those among us that pray should pray for wise leadership with our men and women's interests at heart. Those who live and return aren't always whole, whether that's physical or mental. May we always take care of our own, after they give so much for us -- or for whoever speaks for us. And may those who give the orders in our name do it with dead seriousness of purpose.

    Old men send young men to fight and die. May the old men giving the orders understand that those who fight and die or fight and live deserve the utmost consideration... whether we're deciding whether to fight, whether to stay in a war zone, or whether to recognize what our wars imply (five tours is not right. If we want a five-tour war [or two of them,] we need a draft, so they are one- or two-tour wars. If we don't need -- and I mean NEED -- a war, don't fight it.)

    I am not a pacifist. I do see war as a last resort... for specifically the reasons, the thousands of them, we think about today.

    PFnV
     
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    There are MANY reasons that people choose to enter into the service of their country, both in peacetime and war. Most are noble, patriotic, and just. Almost all are far outside politics. While Tennyson is out of favor these days, there is much wisdom and a sad truth in his famous words. A truth that still exists today, more then 150 years after he wrote them

    "Theirs not to make reply, Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do & die, Into the valley of Death rode the six hundred."

    If you don't understand it at the time you answer the call, then it's something that you learn quickly. Duty is not something that requires your approval, only your preparation to do it, whatever the task is.

    I feel blessed to have not been required during a time to offer a huge sacrifice to serve, and I feel honored in the presence of those that serve when the sacrifice was much great. In the end, it does not matter, only that when called, your answered. To my fellow veterans, my very best to you and your families on this great day.
     
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    You've been reading Houseman again, haven't you?



    Here dead we lie
    Because we did not choose
    To live and shame the land
    From which we sprung.

    Life, to be sure,
    Is nothing much to lose,
    But young men think it is,
    And we were young.

    -- A. E. Housman
     
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    A civil thread that did not descend into partisan politics... nice;)
     
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    HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY
    AN AMERICAN SOLDIER
    KNOWN BUT TO GOD
     
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    Very good article on Arlington in this month's Smithsonian Magazine...
     
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    Amen......
     
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    I echo the above sentiments. A sincere and heartfelt thank you to all veterans, past, present, and future.
     
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    Just to highlight a Vet I read about as a boy. Dick O'Kane served on 2 of the most famous US Submarines of WW2. He was the executive officer in the USS Wahoo and the commander of the USS Tang.


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    The Tang was sunk when one of it own torpedos circled and hit the ship. He was one of 8 crew members to survive. He was a prisoner and almost died before the Japanese surrendered.

    Here is his Congressional Medal of Honor citation:


    His medals:

    Medal of Honor
    Navy Cross with two Gold Award stars
    Silver Star with two Gold Award stars
    Legion of Merit with Combat "V" for Valor
    Purple Heart
    Combat Action Ribbon
    Prisoner of War Medal
    American Defense Service Medal
    American Campaign Medal
    Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal with nine battle stars
    World War II Victory Medal
     
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    Bump of a great thread ...

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    The above named 90 year old neighbor, died just over a year ago.. now I only know 1 WWII veteran, they are a dying breed.

    They experienced more than we know, and seldom talk about it.. in their view they did what was expected..
     
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    Thank you to all our veterans today and every day. Our nation owes a debt to them that can never be fully paid.
     
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    Another year....another heartfelt "Thank you."
     
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    I think I put this this little thing on here last year and it blew my cover so I will put it up again, it is true, it's about a young boy I knew many years ago.

    If a horse hadn't stepped on my foot one morning in 1942 on Brookline St in Cambridge I very well could be in that cemetery with him, we both planned on joining together.........Good Thread Mrs.

    He Was Just A Little Kid.

    Simone:
    One of my boyhood friends.
    Antonio C. Simone
    Private, U.S. Army
    Service # 31422998
    116th Infantry Regiment, 29th Infantry Division.
    Entered the Service from: Massachusetts
    Died: 4-Sep-44
    Buried at: Plot H Row 18 Grave 5 Brittany American Cemetery
    St. James, France
    Awards: Purple Heart

    This is one of my boyhood friends, I met him when we were 5 years old, when he came home from basic training in 1944 we hung around together for 3o days, the night he left to return to Camp I rode into South Station in Boston from Cambridge on the subway with him to see him off, when he got on the Train I said “see you when you get back”, then we laughed and I said “give em hell” I never saw him again, he was only 18 years old.

    I have just spent two hours on the Internet reading about the 116th Infantry Regiment, 29th Infantry Division, this was the Division portrayed in the movie “Saving Private Ryan” these were my friend Tony Simone's "Band Of Brothers"

    My friend Tony Simone from Greasy Village survived the D-Day Landing of Normandy on June 6 1944, after the invasion his outfit then worked their way up to Brest in Brittany, he died on September 4, 1944 during the Battle For Brest in Brittany France. He lived for three months after the invasion of Normandy,
    He is buried in the American Brittany Cemetery St James, France.

    When we were 9 or 10 years old we used to “Play War” with old broom sticks for rifles in the backyards of Cambridge, I wonder if Simone ever thought of that when he was doing “The Real Thing”?

    My son and his wife travel a lot, they have already been to France but I had no idea at the time where Simone was or was killed.
    If my son in his travels ever goes to France again I would like him to put a flower on this grave for me and tell Tony that he is “Burtts Son”
    Author: Red Burtt
     

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