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    a 4th for him ? from my side ok...go for it...
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    Actually, it would cost a 4th to obtain his rights, nothing more.

    He still would have to agree to a contract, and since he's reluctant to re-negotiate with the Bills, it might not be fait accompli that we can sign him.

    I'd rather have the 4th and take my chances in free agency.
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    I think he's being difficult because he wants out of Buffalo so bad.
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    As Maury Finkle would say ..."DO IT."

    "C'mon Finkle wants some dinkle, do it. Do it."
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    FWIW. ProFootballTalk is reporting that the Texans and Chiefs are in trade discussions with the Bills as well.
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    For a 4th let's sign his dinkle!
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    I would think that to facilitate a trade the Bills would have to allow his agent to discuss a contract with another team before the deal is done

    Its really a question of how long a contract Moulds demands. His bonus money from the Bill's inflates his contract to @$10 mil this season but he knows he's not getting that if he gets cut - he's probably more in the $6-$7 mil range if you ask me

    ...and he's worth it - as long as his skills hold out. I'd prefer a 2 year contract but Moulds will probably demand more.

    Between signing Moulds, getting Josh Brown signed to a poison pill RFA tender, and maybe moving up in the draft to 15 to grab a player before Miami and Dallas - I'd say we'd move to the front of the pack of the offseason "winners" - especially if we extend Seymour and Branch on top of it!
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    Assuming no team consumates a trade for him and he is eventually cut by Buffalo, coupled with the thin (and getting thinner by the day) WR market, wouldn't his price be pretty high? As in too high for the Pats?
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    Give them a three

    If we can get him to sign a contract
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    If I were a betting man I'd say the odds are we do none of the above. Best outside chance we move up a few in the draft if a player we really like is dropping. As for Moulds he'd be a tough sign in this market even if he's released, and at 33 it would be tough to sign him at a value price. He's apparently due $7M this season, and if he wants anything approaching that range even a 2-3 year deal with him would drastically impact any Branch extension because BB isn't likely to carry two WR at #1 money. We offered Mason around 4/$20M before losing him to the Ravens last March, and he was 2 years younger.

    There are reportedly 4 teams interested as a trade, there would be a few more in it as FA no doubt. Sounds like Texas has the early inside track:

    Before the Texans can work out the trade with Buffalo, they have to negotiate a new contract with Moulds, who caught 81 passes for 816 yards and four touchdowns this past season.

    "We're exploring an opportunity for Eric to play for the Texans," said Greg Johnson, one of Moulds' representatives. "If all sides can see eye to eye, we'll make it happen.

    "But everyone has to see eye to eye."

    The Texans, Philadelphia, Denver and New England are among the teams interested in Moulds, a former first-round draft choice who is entering his 11th year."




    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3749828.html
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    Moulds is too "pricey". The rumble outta GB is Javon is gone. He's our guy! That's my story and I'm stickin wiff it...... :rocker:
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    I agree with MoLewis...I'd rather go that route. Moulds is good...but not great.
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    Under the new cap now, naturally.
    Say Buff takes a fourth.

    Don't you think Moulds would be tickled ... by a s/b of 9 mil
    plus 2 years of minimum sals
    with a third year at, say, 4-5 mil?

    His agent trumpets that he gets 5 million a year.
    We have him for a cap cost like Dillon's.
    If he has only two years of speed, it would have cost us almost 4 1/2 mil against the cap each year,
    with dead money of 3 million down the road.

    I think this leaves decent room for Deion. (After all, our big cap space exists only to be spent!)

    More to the point ... would THAT be good for us?
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    If you can get this guy at 5 mill per season, they should jump on him. Even if it does drive up the price of branch.
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    Forget Moulds I just saw on the 11 O'Clock news that he wants to go to Philly to play with McNabb. Seems like nobody has any interest in playing for the Patriots.
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    Moulds current deal calls for hefty salaries in 2006 and 2007:

    2006 6,089,000.00
    2007 7,250,000.00

    I'm sure BB wouldn't do a trade unless he already had Moulds agreeing to a new deal that paid a lot less than that. They din't want to give Givens too much because of how it'd affect signing Branch.

    Walker is only signed thru 2006 at 1,150,000.00 for the year. But, I would think they'd want to make a new deal before they gave a Rnd 2 or 3 for him also. Supposedly GB wants a 2 and BB wants to give up his 2nd rd rnd pick.
    Maybe they'll comprimise and use the Pats early 3rd rnd pick. It's 11 higher.
    Walker is younger, too.
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    How touching, Mr.T, to meet someone trusting enough to think ...
    that people engaged in trying to get the highest price,
    during competitive negotiations ...
    truthfully explain their wishes and intentions on tv.
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    Don't give those Moulds salary prescriptions a second thought, Steve.

    He knows as well as does the Bills' f/o ... that he isn't going to see such numbers from anyone.
    But squawking, I Won't Take A Cut! ...
    is his only leverage against potential employers after Buff cuts him.

    Now that Dan Snyder is maxed out ... eventually, either he'll see reason,
    or apply for unemployment.
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