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  1. makewayhomer

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    I think we are the best team in the NFL, but our odds (or anyones odds) of winning the SB are less than 15%. don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen.
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    The one thing that still scares me is that Josh McDaniels is calling the plays. I'm serious.
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    Imagine if Weis was around. I could predict 19-0 with honest confidence.
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    I'll be disappointed if they don't win the Super Bowl, as I should be.

    I understand your point though, that we shouldn't just make it a foregone conclusion that they will win.

    After all, we have seen time and time again when the best team on paper doesn't win.
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    What?

    So Detroits odds are 15% also? Oakland's too?
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    Everyone is just excited, no one with any common sense thinks any move made in the off season guarantess a SB.

    Let everyone go crazy for a couple of days, and then everything will settle down, and then there will be enough caution to make all the pessimists happy:)
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    It's completely justified to be excited about this upcoming season but to act like a Superbowl is automatic is just silly. There are too many factors. Brady pops a knee in camp and everything changes.
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    We control our own odds, but the, "We've won it already," attitude on here needs to stop ASAP. It's horrible karma.
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    I would take Weis back in a second, but I think McDaniels has done a pretty ok job. In 2005 we had no running game and in 2006 we had sub par receivers (to put it nicely) and this offense was still as productive as ever in terms of scoring points. A lot of the credit goes to Brady but some goes to McDaniels as well. Weis was not loved at all during his first stint as offensive coordinator, so give McDaniels time and I trust that Belichick made the right decision in appointing coaches.
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    nope. reread my post
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    I've tried to make the following statement here a couple times:

    "the best team doesn't always win"

    but people don't want to admit or don't understand that luck matters.

    I'm not even talking about the "best team on paper" or whatever, I'm talking about "the best team"
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    Great post.:rolleyes:
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    I firmly believe that if the Pats don't suffer any serious injury to multiple key players (and get their flu shots next Dec/Jan) that they cruise to a SB win the upcoming season.
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    not only that, but even being just a few years removed from a championship I bet 50% of the players on the 53 man roster WILL NOT have won a Super Bowl with the Patriots. The hunger will be there.
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    Where do you get that 15% figure from?

    I remember back in the mid-'90s when the 49ers and Cowboys were dominant, a friend of mine would put big preseason bets on the two teams and rake in the dough. With your 15% figure you're saying that the chance that, say, the Patriots OR Colts OR Chargers win is less than 50% I'm not so sure.
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    No matter what, every single game is going to be over the top exciting. Let's enjoy next season, we have something to look forward to.

    Plus, Asante and Randy are playing for big contracts.
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    I will say this. I've never felt more confident about a team going into a season than I do about this one. That includes the 2004 team that I set a very high standard on. However we should all be seasoned into this team's philosophy by now "One game at a time". All I know is one bad game could spell disaster,that's all it takes. And I won't use the "I" word. We had enough of those last season.

    I will be watching this offensive line closely. They will be the key as to how far we go in the postseason.
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    I don't think the odds of winning the superbowl are even. Lets face it, Oakland, Detroit, San Fransisco, Cleveland, Miami, etc, have no chance in winning the superbowl. I look at it in a few ways. One is the chance in making it to the playoffs. 2/3 of the teams wont even make it to the playoffs, so you know that in tough conferences and divisions, the middle to bottom teams really have no shot. Etc. So really, our odds are fairly good from the start. Obviously its no given, but our odds are definately higher than any other team. And as a gambler, you go with odds. I would put everything on winning the SB, but if the odds are right, I'd put enough on it.
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    I think the offensive line will be fine. For me, the real determining factor this season is the performance of the linebackers and safeties. Meriweather and Thomas will help, and I still think Bruschi has something left, but I hope we sign at least one more rotational ILB like Seau or Hartwell.
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    I don't think even the original poster was claiming anything like even odds for all teams...15% X 32 teams = 480%, after all!
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    Evey team has a chance to win the Super Bowl.
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    thanks for making this comment, I was going to make this comment myself.

    In fact, 15% chance is more like a 1 in 6 chance, which seems reasonable considering you still have the Colts, Ravens, Chargers, Broncos, and (insert this year's surprise team) to contend with.
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    Go wash your mouth with soap! :mad: :mad:
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    Hartwell would be sweet. I'm having a hard time gauging Seau's interest in returning as a backup reserve role. I hope he want's to come back. In this stage of his career it is the perfect opportunity for him to win a ring and to stay relatively healthy and fresh .

    Then again he may leave for San Diego via the Donnie Edwards departure. He proved alot of doubters wrong last season and I'm sure the Chargers took notice. If not for the freak injury he may have completed an entire season for the first time in awhile.
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    I'm no math whiz but I knew something didn't quite add up!
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    Of course I'll be disappointed if we don't win the superbowl. I was disapointed last year and the year before, and I was disappointed for almost a half-century at one point.
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    but not the same likelihood
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    To that I say AMEN!
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    I don't know about anyone else here but aren't we still a bit lame on ILB depth?

    The picks we took late are not really guaranteed LB replacements,I still think if there is a decent ILB still out there in FA we will need one,I don't care how many superstars we will have on offense,If we can't stop the run or pressure the pass we will be watching the SB without NE in it.

    IMO we should have taken Harris,Posluzsny (could probably play inside if needed) Siler or any of the top ILBs instead of the SF trade.
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    Wasn't the SF trade for our first round pick? Not a value spot for Siler as the Chargers took him late in the seventh round (pick #240)

    Don't think Pos could play inside for Pats, either. Harris would have been nice.
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