Welcome to PatsFans.com

Tidbit on Gronk v. Greg Olsen

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by ctpatsfan77, Aug 2, 2010.

?

Who would you have taken with #42/44?

Poll closed Aug 16, 2010.
  1. Gronk

    94.4%
  2. Olsen

    5.6%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2005
    Messages:
    21,449
    Likes Received:
    482
    Ratings:
    +1,299 / 18 / -8

    #3 Jersey

    Food for thought: did BB make the right call here?

    Bears have no shortage of TEs, but it's not clear why :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Mike Mulligan

     
  2. JackBauer

    JackBauer Pro Bowl Player

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2005
    Messages:
    16,410
    Likes Received:
    358
    Ratings:
    +861 / 6 / -9

    Given how poorly the offensive line has fared in the running game, I'm sure this was as much about Gronkowski's runblocking ability than anything else.
     
  3. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    5,247
    Likes Received:
    257
    Ratings:
    +782 / 2 / -3

    I voted Gronk (as it seems everyone has). Even without Hernandez, I'm of the opinion that your primary TE needs to be a competent blocker (one who has hands too is obviously a plus). Olsen isn't known for his blocking.
     
  4. Calciumee

    Calciumee PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2008
    Messages:
    4,609
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +14 / 0 / -1

    #3 Jersey

    +1

    Both Gronk and Olsen seem able to be a receiving TE, but I think Gronk is a better run blocker, which was clearly a big selling point for BB and co.
     
  5. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    21,486
    Likes Received:
    203
    Ratings:
    +599 / 46 / -21

    I would have trade for Olsen before the draft. Belichick wisely decided to wait because of the staff's projection of the great set of TE's available to us. Belichick was right; we know have Gronkowski AND Hernandez.
     
  6. patriot lifer

    patriot lifer 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    1,930
    Likes Received:
    19
    Ratings:
    +61 / 0 / -0

    #87 Jersey

    #44 is too high. Considering the Bears will be ultimately making some tough cuts (or cheaper trades) and the draft was deep with TE's, BB probably thought 'the heck with that.' And since then, it doesn't seem like there has been much of a market for Olsen, seeing how nobody else has traded for him.
     
  7. Sciz

    Sciz PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    7,378
    Likes Received:
    155
    Ratings:
    +440 / 1 / -0

    Olsen is proven, but I'd much rather rake that risk on Gronk that take Olsen, who we know is a liability when blocking.
     
  8. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    28,147
    Likes Received:
    848
    Ratings:
    +2,720 / 33 / -57

    No Jersey Selected

    What they said. Olsen is a pretty cool pass catcher in the Bears offense, but his blocking leaves a lot to be desired.x
     
  9. ahmed

    ahmed Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    751
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    Gronk is the complete package; can block and catch, not to mention younger and cheaper.
     
  10. spacecrime

    spacecrime Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    8,325
    Likes Received:
    17
    Ratings:
    +17 / 0 / -0

    Olsen compares more to Hernandez than Gronk.

    I might have traded for Olsen with that pick but am very happy the Pats used it to take Hernandez.
     
  11. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    5,247
    Likes Received:
    257
    Ratings:
    +782 / 2 / -3

    Yup, and IMO a TE who's a liability blocking is just a big WR. The whole point of having a TE to me is that the defense has to respect his pass catching AND his blocking ability. That gives the offense a lot of options for formations and routes.

    A TE who can block but can't catch is an undersized OT.

    A TE who can catch but can't block is a big slow WR.
     
  12. convertedpatsfan

    convertedpatsfan PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2009
    Messages:
    3,453
    Likes Received:
    129
    Ratings:
    +320 / 1 / -2

    #12 Jersey

    Agreed. And I'd rather have Hernandez in the 4th over spending a 2nd on Olsen. Much better value.
     
  13. Deus Irae

    Deus Irae PatsFans.com Retired Jersey Club PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2006
    Messages:
    44,096
    Likes Received:
    942
    Ratings:
    +3,449 / 186 / -130

    Disable Jersey

    I think Olsen only becomes interesting at this point if there's an injury, or if Crumpler is finished.
     
  14. Sicilian

    Sicilian Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    5,247
    Likes Received:
    257
    Ratings:
    +782 / 2 / -3

    Even if Crumpler is done, I think our focus would be towards a more balanced TE to replace him. The Olsen talks happened before we drafted Hernandez. If we had Gronk, Hernandez, and Olsen, with the number of wide receivers we have (potentially), we'd have two many catching targets and not enough options in the blocking game IMO.
     
  15. patsfan-1982

    patsfan-1982 In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2007
    Messages:
    4,275
    Likes Received:
    23
    Ratings:
    +97 / 10 / -4

    not a fan of Olsen, so i picked Gronk, but Greg Olsen, is a pretty good pass catching TE Gronk, is a unproven rookie who may only be a OT who can catch a few pass in this system. but i have high hopes for the kid.
     
  16. 5 Rings for Brady!!

    5 Rings for Brady!! In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,751
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    How many more reports of Gronk crushing defenders, as well as tackling sleds do we need to hear? Along with Hernandez for a song in the fourth round. :rocker:
     
  17. Nathan

    Nathan On the Roster

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    This is dumb, Hernandez is a much better TE to compare to Olsen than Gronk.
     
  18. eagle eye

    eagle eye In the Starting Line-Up

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,216
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

    #85 Jersey

    Olsen has proven he can play in the NFL, Gronk has yet to prove that.

    Basically before the draft I'd have picked Olsen but we are hearing good things from TC so that changes things a bit. I won't be able to say Gronk until I see him perform for at least a couple of weeks in the NFL.
     
  19. ausbacker

    ausbacker Brady > Manning. PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2008
    Messages:
    14,099
    Likes Received:
    438
    Ratings:
    +1,393 / 19 / -5

    #87 Jersey

    There's obviously a reason BB decided against Olsen and went for the Gronk. How could the Gronk's draft day performance not have won you over? The guy was genuinely excited to become a Patriots player.

    You can't fake that sort of enthusiasm.
     
  20. Reckedtrek

    Reckedtrek 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2008
    Messages:
    1,738
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0

    #95 Jersey

    I'd take Gronk before Olsen, and based on what I've heard and what I saw at camp, I'd take AH, too. Granted I've never seen Olsen at a practice, but AH must have fly paper hands. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the TE's exact their toll in the red zone this season!
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>