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    http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2007/02/blunting_the_se.html

    I would love to hear any thought-provoking responses from anyone who believes in the theory of cultural equivalence. :)
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    Most liberals, Bush Haters, progressives, socialists and left over Commies are always siding with the enemy of the America, if the White Christian Blue Collar Conservative American starts waving the flag these people get outraged.

    They will take the side of the Muslim because the Muslim is now the enemy of America, if you remember back after the attack on our country these people were complaining that we were waving to many Flags before the dust had even settled following 9/11, they wanted the showing of the pictures of 9/11 stopped because they made America MAD and because they offended the "Silent Muslim" and the "Silent Arabs" living in America, we now have a segment of the populace in America that will immediately support our enemy and blame their own country for everything that is wrong in the world, they are mostly if not all "new democrats" the gang of back stabbing skunks led by the Grinning She Devil Pelosi.

    Many of these New Traitors and Haters are outraged that America had the audacity to WIN WWII.

    I am no fan of the Christaian Pat Robinson's or Jerry Fallwell's but I will take them any day compared to the Bloodthirsty Savages From The Middle East.

    We are at war with the Radical Muslim Religion and they will be trying to kill you Progressive Liberal Bush Hating Democrats long after Bush and Aunt Nancy are gone, they will be killing your Grandchildren, so you better tap their phones, look in their sneakers and PROFILE them for the next fifty years, maybe more.

    GOD WILLING DEATH TO AMERICA TEAR AND CARVE THEIR INFEDEL BODIES UP KILL THEIR WOMEN AND CHILDREN----PRAISE ALLAH.

    HARRY BOY SAYS "F-CK YOU AND YOUR DONKEYS"
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    Extremist religious views whether it be Islam, Christian or Jew serves no one's purpose.. particularly when they influence gov't.. unfortunately in this country this line has gotten fuzzier and I think we are worse off for it. When candidates have to appeal to a specific religious right wing group of people, who are in the minority we all suffer.. for no reason except for some votes. I would like to see someone in this country with some big gonads just tell them they are respected, but there is a division between church and state.. I don't tell you what to believe, don't force your opinions on me. Probably will never happen as all candidates are panderer's.

    As far as Islam goes cannot understand, from my secular ways, how a life can be so dictated by a belief.. is it what you are supposed to do(cultural &family thing), forced to do(no choice& gov't intervention) or a true belief system. I also do not understand violence associated with any religion, as it seems counter to the base of religion.

    Do not care for any religious ifluence on the way my country is run, it is impossible for this to be implemented as religion enters so many facets of life, but it can be controlled.
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    bump....

    anyone have any thought-provoking comments about the article?
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    Islam was founded 6 centuries after Christianity, and they're about 6 centuries behind. Christianity circa 1407 = Islam circa today.
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    It's hard to compare cultures. Judeo-Christian culture doesn't commit crimes in the name of God the way that Islamic culture does, but nonetheless Judeo-Christian culture managed to create and empower Hitler, King Leopold, Mussolini, Stalin, Franco, Pinochet, and others. While no Christian in his right mind would want to consider any of those men Christians, there are many Arabs who feel the same way about their own extremists.

    I think it makes sense that cultural equivalence exists, but the comparisons are more complex than just the modes of attack. While Muslim culture has given rise to psychopaths who intentionally kill women and children, become suicide bombers, and target civilians; Judeo-Christian culture has given rise to psychopaths who lead state militaries to commit terrible crimes. Both religions give rise to good and bad.
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    Sorry Patters, but Stalin was a Communist. Atheism, not Christianity, was encouraged.
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    Stalin studied to be a priest, but my real point is that somehow Judeo-Christian culture produced its own share of people every bit as bad as Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein (who, by the way, was very secular up until the '91 war). So, when we're talking about cultural equivalence, I think it's fair to say that Judeo-Christian culture has produced as many, if not more, evil people as Islamic culture.
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    A culture is dominated by a worldview. Everyone has a philosophy or worldview. Each worldview is fixed upon something which it worships. For instance, enviromentalists worship nature. Humanists worship man. Islam worships Allah. Communism worships the state. For some, money is their "god." William James, the pragmatic, worshiped the pragmatic method and attributed the pronouns "she" and her" to his worldview. Pragmatism was his goddess.

    To combine Communism and Christianity as one culture is to ignore history. After all, it is Communism that said Christianity is the opium of the massess.
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    Stalin did not come of age in a Communist country. He came of age in a nation that was predominantly Christian. I'm not saying Stalin was a Christian, but he was a byproduct of that culture.

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