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    "Taxes should be proportioned to what may be annually spared by the individual." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1784.

    "Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1785.
     
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    He is either with us or with the terrorists!
     
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    #24 Jersey

    That's exactly what is done, the top 50% pay 97% of the income tax. However people call that unfair to the bottom 50%. It's truly bizarre.
     
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    The wealthy should pay much more. The poor person feels it more because they have far less disposable income. But, you go ahead and defend the idea that taxation should enable the wealthy to have gold bathroom fixtures while poor kids go hungry.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    :confused:

    The poor already pay almost nothing. Maybe the Income Tax should pay them . . . oh, that's right, it does.
     
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    Jefferson never envisioned a government that consumed > 40% of GDP (talking all levels here).
     
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    #24 Jersey

    I'm not sure what the income tax rate was back then but with :

    Federal Income Tax
    State Income Tax
    Sales Tax
    Property Tax
    Gas Tax
    Capital Gains (and other investment) Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Medicare Tax

    It's gotten ridiculous.
     
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    I wonder if he envisioned the military industrial complex
     
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    well that's what he says, the poor should pay nothing before a certain point
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Did he say anything about people getting paid by the income tax ?

    (talking about the earned income tax credit exceeding the income tax for some, not paying federal employees).
     
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    Congress has NEVER paid income tax... this is the reason why they will NEVER make a law for income tax... so, it's = to an unwritten law.

    If that makes any sense.

    Watch the documentry From Freedom To Facism.

    If the truth ever came out, and the sheep would grasp the truth... the sheep would be dazed.

    They still wouldn't do anything about it...

    Sheep don't make very smart people.

    Don't be a sheep.
     
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    Huh? If someone works hard and builds a fortune, aka the American Dream, and wants to wipe his arse with $100 bills and flush them down his gold toilet, that's his/her perogative. If YOU feel like donating every last cent of your income to others, go ahead. The government has ZERO right to confiscate the hard earned property of one individual, in order to give it to someone else, for no other purpose than to make them "even".

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

    -Thomas Jefferson-
     
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    Deffinately not. No welfare, and no MIC.
     
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    It's the middle class (before too long, there won't be such a thing) that ALWAYS takes it in the back door.

    NOT the rich.
     
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    #37 Jersey

    What a liberal falacy, Entitlement spending dwarfs military spending.

    Maybe we should pay the Military to kill the poor and earn their money:mad:
     
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    Imagine If He Could See People Fainting and Having Orgasms Just From Watching Barack H Obama "Blow His Nose"
    :bricks::bricks:
     
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    I am sure not, defense of the nation was part of the constitution, however the myriad of social programs we see now were not.
     
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    People making $80,000 have gold bathroom fixtures..? Dayum... I gotta move into your neighborhood... :rolleyes:
     
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    BF, I am getting sick of your bigotry and intolerance. Can't you see how unfair America has been to the welfare recipient in this picture..? How the f*ck do you expect someone to live in such horrid conditions..?!? It's is cruel and inhumane to expect someone to use such a small television..!!

    In Patters' world, you're not paying your fair share but this woman is:

    [​IMG]
     
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    #24 Jersey

    You're right, shame on me. That picture could be right out of Darfur . . .
     

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