Welcome to PatsFans.com

This may be the most important election

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by Patters, Jun 8, 2009.

  1. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    17,739
    Likes Received:
    127
    Ratings:
    +163 / 4 / -4

    The Iranian election campaign is really quite interesting. The reformer, Moussavi, has been leading an aggressive campaign, and his wife has played a major role. It's created an interesting dynamic, and there's a good chance that at Iran, like the United States, will boot conservative Ahmadinejad. I wonder if Obama's speech, though largely blocked in Iran, was timed to influence the election.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/world/middleeast/08iran.html
  2. wistahpatsfan

    wistahpatsfan Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,672
    Likes Received:
    11
    Ratings:
    +11 / 0 / -0

  3. maverick4

    maverick4 Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    Messages:
    7,669
    Likes Received:
    17
    Ratings:
    +17 / 0 / -0

    If they do elect a new Iranian President who goes against our interests, maybe we'll topple their leader like we did a few decades ago, which is what made previously pro-American Iran turn against us in the first place.
  4. DarrylS

    DarrylS PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    40,971
    Likes Received:
    99
    Ratings:
    +176 / 5 / -22

    Not much confidence in their "democratic process", the power lies with those who count the votes.. and that is usually done by the people in power.

    OTOH fairly confident we have a lot of operatives over there doing their best to level the playing field.
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2009
  5. Patters

    Patters Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    17,739
    Likes Received:
    127
    Ratings:
    +163 / 4 / -4

    Actually, they seem to have a fairly democratic process.

    Iran's 'Macaca' Moment? Ahmadinejad's Rivals Circulate Video Highlighting His Bizarre "Light" Claim

    And we just saw Hezbollah graciously concede in Lebanon, so perhaps the propaganda we've been fed is not completely accurate.
  6. Leave No Doubt

    Leave No Doubt PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 10, 2008
    Messages:
    5,609
    Likes Received:
    10
    Ratings:
    +10 / 0 / -0

  7. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,800
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    Iran is gradually moving toward a more western ideology. Its the lure of rock'n'roll, blue jeans and hollywood. Its a crazy statistic, like 70% of the country is under the age of 30.

    certainly will be in interesting election.

    All those persians in the know, know that the president of Iran, isn't its leader.

    Iran's supreme religious leader is Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
  8. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    31,381
    Likes Received:
    138
    Ratings:
    +281 / 9 / -9

    #24 Jersey

    If there is a change it won't be due to obamamania :

    Poll: Few Iranians see US favorably, despite Obama

    "A rare poll of Iranians says that few of them have favorable opinions of the United States, a view that hasn't changed much from before the election of President Barack Obama.

    The survey, taken last month, shows that 29 percent of Iranians view the U.S. positively. In February 2008, a similar poll of Iranians showed 34 percent with favorable views of the U.S. "
  9. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,800
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    Iran race gets bitter as election looms
    Reformists form human chain in Tehran; Ahmadinejad's supporters rally


    Iran race gets bitter as election looms - Iran- msnbc.com


    TEHRAN, Iran - Supporters of Iran's main pro-reform presidential candidate formed a human chain that stretched nearly the entire length of Tehran on Monday in their biggest display of political might — sending a powerful challenge to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's backers as both sides poured into the streets in the final days of the race.

    The showdown atmosphere reflects the increasingly bitter tone between Ahmadinejad and his main rival, Mir Hossein Mousavi, in the campaign blitz before Friday's vote. Both have traded recriminations and engaged in mudslinging as intense as any bare-knuckle American campaign and — in the process — have turned the election into a display of Iran's deep political divides.



    MOST important part of the article:

    Ahmadinejad's supporters applaud his firebrand style that include questions over the Holocaust and his uncompromising defense of Iran's nuclear program. Mousavi's backers — including many young voters — believe Iran's international standing is being undermined and a more flexible approach is needed with critical issues at stake such as possible talks with Washington.
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2009
  10. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,800
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0



    an interesting line from the last part of the article I posted....

    "There are no credible political polls in Iran, but both campaigns predict what a very tight race."
  11. 363839

    363839 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,500
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    We toppled an Iranian leader a few decades ago??:confused:
    I must have missed it.
  12. Holy Diver

    Holy Diver Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,800
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +6 / 0 / -0

    1953 Iranian coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    "In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically elected Iranian government,"

    -President Barack Obama
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2009

Share This Page

unset ($sidebar_block_show); ?>