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    #24 Jersey

    Chicago is certainly not the only place where honor students get killed. In fact, Chicago falls far behind quite a few other US cities in number of murders committed.

    Chicago's not even in the top 10.

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0921299.html


    Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn just happened to settle in Chicago but Chicago had nothing to do with freeing them. It was a federal charge and it was the federal government which freed them.

    Chicago as an Olympic City might not be the best idea, granted, but neither is Rio, where crime is totally out of control or Madrid where the terrorist threat is much higher. Japan may be the best choice but Chicago would surely be the second best - and how exactly would you feel if our president lobbied for a foreign county such as Japan rather than for his own?

    You need to get real, Foggy, and understand that some things are just necessary - a president with a city in the country he governs is certainly going to lobby for that city - regardless. Would you really expect (or want) him to do differently?

    OSAC - Brazil 2007 Crime & Safety: Rio de Janeiro

    Madrid Country Council - 2005 Crime and Safety Report
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    I wonder if Fog has the same attitude towards Yale University, where a lab technician recently murdered a young woman. Based on that crime, can we now generalize about those who are employed and engaged to be married?

    But, my strong suspicion is Fog does not know the family status or income status of the accused, and is making generalizations based on their race. Classic bigotry. Let's see how Fog changes the subject to try to weasel his way out of this one, rather than take personal responsibility and do some self reflection. Shame on him.
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    People who make excuses for vicious violent crimes -- like the one shown in this video, with a gang-banger killing a 16-year old honor student who was just trying to help out -- are just as guilty of this murder as the animal who wielded the weapon. Anybody who seeks to excuse what happened on this video needs to stand trial along side the one who actually hit the youngster and committed the murder.



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    No one is seeking to excuse what happened, but it was an isolated and very tragic crime and does not reflect at all on the thousands of students who are good, decent, and hard working.
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    .... and there are STILL people acting "surprised" that al qaeda and more than half the Muslim world thinks America is already dead??? .... the Chinese, Russians, Venezuelans/Latin Americans thinking the same???? Surprised??? For those who still act "surprised" your head is buried in the sand.



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    Was George Bush responsible for David Koresh??? Is John McCain responsible for the Viper Movement?? Is Arnold responsible for the crips and bloods??

    These are inane arguments, that go nowhere.. politicizing a dead honor student only shows the desperation of the right..

    No one excuses anything here, just try to put it into a context.. sympathies for the mother, and hopefully something positive can come from it..

    This disengenuous title is just more hysteria, and has little to do with the crime except prejudice...
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    #91 Jersey

    If i used fogic and used you as an example it would mean that ALL Monnies are like you and thats not good, not good at all.
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    "After adopting crime-fighting techniques in 2004 recommended by the Los Angeles and New York City Police Departments,[6] Chicago recorded 448 homicides, the lowest total since 1965. This murder rate of 15.65 per 100,000 population is still above the U.S. average, an average which takes in many small towns and suburbs. This homicide rate is similar to that of Los Angeles in 2004 (13.4 per 100,000), and twice that of New York City (7.0 per 100,000)." -- Crime in Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    [size=+3]Chicago had 509 homicides in 2008[/size]
    [highlight]Homicides rose nearly 15 percent and overall crime rose 3 to 4 percent[/highlight]

    By Angela Rozas
    January 02, 2009

    Chicago closed out the year with 509 homicides, an increase of about 15 percent over 2007, but still among the lowest numbers in decades, according to preliminary data released by the department Thursday.

    The city had fewer than 500 homicides each year from 2003 through 2007, and 2007’s number, 443, was fewest in more than 40 years.

    Just what caused the double-digit increase in 2008, along with an expected overall increase in crime, is debatable. Chicago had 509 homicides in 2008 - Chicago Tribune

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    Meanwhile, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, domestic terrorists who several times bombed United States federal property, are not only walking around free as birds -- NEVER HAVING SERVED EVEN ONE DAY IN PRISON -- they are actually getting paid by the tax-payers of Illinois and America, paid for TEACHING young people. Having been a terrorist, and having NEVER spent ONE DAY in prison for his crimes, what good could William Ayers ever teach to anyone?? The only thing Ayers knows is: "crime pays; go and do it."

    Thus we see Chicago and horrendous murders like this one on the video. Chicago, Barack Obama's home town.


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    America Gets Closer Each Passing Day To Becoming The Largest Third World Sh!thole On The Planet

    DIRTY ANIMALS THESE GANG BANGERS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH, CRUEL VIOLENT, SOULESS, MURDERING PIGS

    BLACK, BROWN, WHITE THEY ARE ALL FILTHY SAVAGES, I COULD SIT AND EAT A BOX OF FRIED CLAMS WHILE WATCHING THE NATIONAL GUARD MOW THEM DOWN WITH MACHINE GUNS AND FLAME THROWERS, IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN WATCHING 'EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND'

    BEFORE ALL YOU DO-GOODING KNEE JERKERS GET YOUR UNDERWEAR ALL BUNCHED UP WITH YOUR "RACIST SH1T" MOST AMERICANS WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE KKK AND ALL THE OTHER "WHITE MOTHER F-CKING GANGS" SHOT DEAD IN THE STREETS RIGHT ALONG WITH THE CRIPS AND BLOODS, NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE USEFUL TO ANYBODY, THEY ARE NO GOOD.

    The good thing about some of these Gang Fights is they Kill Each Other" but every so often some Poor Old Lady Or Little Kid has to die in the Savagery.

    They aren't only Killer Savages they look like clowns flashing their Silly Hand Signal Sh!t Around, KILL THEM ALL they are worthless pieces of sh!t.

    GOD BLESS THAT BOYS POOR MOTHER SHE HAS TO LIVE THE REST OF HER LIFE WITH THE VISION OF HER BABY BEING BEATEN TO DEATH BY A BUNCH OF SCREAMING YELLING SAVAGE DOGS.


    WAS OBAMA'S PREACHER UNCLE JEREMIAH RIGHT WHEN HE SCREAMED OUT "GOD DAMN AMERICA"
    :mad::mad::mad:
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    Somehow I am trying to figure out how all this fits..

    Honor student killed in Chicago by gangs....
    Online poll on Facebook do you want Obama killed...
    Take back America conference advocates to the taking up of arms...
    And poor Roman does not want to come back to America to face his music...
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    Based on the Yale crime, we need to throw more money and government resources at Yale. I mean that seems to be the answer. Both the Yale tech and this group of thugs are animals. In my opinion both need to be put down like animals. Death or life with no parole in some pound me in the @ss prison. Whether its the lone wolf or the pack mentality line em up and shoot em. IMO.
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    #24 Jersey

    Alaska is the # 1 state in the country for Rape and has been for 23 out of the last 30 years (FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports).


    Alaska’s reported rate of rape per capita is 2.6 times the national average (FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports).


    Anchorage has the ninth highest sexual assault rate of any city in the United States, and Fairbanks is ranked first (FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports).


    Fairbanks’ rape rate is 4.7 times the national average (FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports).


    AK’s Child abuse rate is six times higher than the national average. (Department of Public Safety/ AK CDVSA Annual Report for FY 2006)

    STAR - Sexual Assault


    Thus we see Alaska and horrendous violence like these statistics. Alaska, Sarah Palin's home town.

    The fact that there are horrendous murders in Chicago does not make Chicago the most murderous city in the US, Foggy. In fact, whole-picture statistics show that Chicago is far down on the list. Your stories are just that, stories. Isolated in the fact that you are not including stories or numbers from cities with worse stories and numbers.

    The fact that Barak Obama comes from Chicago no more makes him responsible for the murder rate there than it makes Sarah Palin responsible for the rapes and domestic violence in her home place, either.

    Unless, of course, you think she is.
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    So, you're saying the Republican Senators from Tennessee are responsible for the murder rate in Memphis, which is higher than in Chicago? Does the same go for the Republican Senators from Texas, given that Dallas and Houston have higher murder rates?

    And, perhaps Ayers should have been imprisoned and one time, but he has reformed and is known for doing constructive work in the area of education. We may not catch the criminals all the time, but we sometimes do. For instance, we got Reverend Moon on all counts of tax fraud and conspiracy and he spent 18 months in an American prison. Perhaps that's where he learned the art of manipulation.
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    Don't make excuses for Gang Bangers, they are human waste.
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    #91 Jersey

    :singing: :singing: Go back to sleep :singing: :singing:
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    Worst, dumbest, most ignorant thread of the month.

    I can't believe I spent 3 minutes reading it.

    Someone shoot me!
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    Poll:
    Who would you rather bring home to dinner?

    1 Tea Bagger (lot of sh!t from loons about these people)
    2 Gang Banger (loons don't like talking about these people)

    :bricks:
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    3. A very rich person who had an insatiable need to give away a lot of money
    4. Tom and Gisele
    5. None of the above
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