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Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by ELOrocks17, Mar 29, 2006.

  1. ELOrocks17

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    THe US constitution gaurentees the right to peacefull protest...as long as you are a citizen of this country. Illegals are not US citizens, therfor they have no right to protest in this country. They need to be arrested for disturbing the peace.
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    Here you go again pulling stuff out of your ass.

    The text of the first amendment reads: "...or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Notice it says "the people", not just citizens. The bill of rights has never been held to only apply to citizens, but to all residents.

    But the bigger piece of BS you pulled out is that the people protesting are themselves illegal aliens. Did they show you their papers?

    So they'll continue to protest all they want and you'll continue having to take it with no recourse, just as it should be.
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    Uh..I'm guessing that you dont fully understand the "illegal thing". typical blind liberal. If they had papers..they wouldn't be illegal. DUH!
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    I swear, I feel like I'm talking to somebody with a learning disability.

    How do you know they were illegal, and that they had no papers? Did you ask them? America has tons of legal immigrants, and of course lots and lots of non-immigrants. How do you pick out the illegals in a crowd?
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    Welcome to my world.

    To answer your morally ambiguous question, Round them up, ask to see a drivers liscense and/or Social security card, if the cannot produce these---then they are probably illegal.
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    Morally ambiguous? It was neither a moral question nor ambiguous, but wasn't it fun to use those words?

    By the way, good luck rounding up 1 million people during a protest and asking them for their driver's licenses. And what about the very legal, born-here Americans who don't have ID?

    The point was, that you assumed these were illegal immigrants who were protesting, when you know no such thing.
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    When I watched the "protesters" on the news I noticed something, most all were waving "foreign flags", they want to be part of America, they want all the "Goodies" but they march around in the country they want to live in waving the Flag of "ANOTHER COUNTRY".

    America's southwest is going to be in some deep sh!t pretty soon, wait till the "minorities start fighting with each other" they are already doing it in the prisons, you don't hear to much about it because "whitey" isn't starting it.

    The Neo Libs won't be able to blame the "white mother f-cker" for whats about to start out there (minority against minority)

    Those Movie Stars better start packing their bags, "Pedro is moving in" :rocker:
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    I notice something else in the south, people fly confederate flags. Not American flags - confederate flags. Big f---ing whoop, people are proud of their herritage. They show how much the love America every day without lifting a flag - by washing your toilets and serving your meals.
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    It makes me sick too. If they don't want to be American they should stay the f*ck in Mexico. That's the difference between the immigrant of today. Mexicans don't want to come over and be part of America . . . they want CA back.
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    How are you going to round them up, if you approach a crowd of 1/2 million and just start arresting folks do you think you might create a larger problem??
    If you arrest about 25,000 then what are you going to do, how will you process them and how will you hold them??

    The problem is people look at this very short sighted and we are talking about huge numbers, sometimes the solution creates a bigger problem. The first thing that needs to addressed is the ambivalence about illegal workers, in some areas they are welcomed(NOLA) and in other areas they are a burden(LA). Cannot have it both ways, need a consistent enforceable policy.
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    Agreed..something needs to be done now--What puzzles me the most is why illegals give a damn whether illegally entering this country is a misdemeanor or a felony..they are going to ignore the law anyway.
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    The big difference is if it were a felony, anyone assisting an illegal immigrant in any way (including to provide medical assistance) would be aiding a felon, which is a felony in itself.
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    Whats your SOLUTION Pujo?
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    From another thread:
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    (From another thread:)


    Assimilate is not the following-

    -Waiving a Mexican flag over the US Flag and burn that US flag.
    -Refusing to try to speak English.
    -Refusing to become citizens and pay taxes.
    -Protesting like a bunch of Che Guevera wannabes
    -Telling your kids to cut class and screw their education over, to make a political statement.
    -Calling everyone but your own group racist.

    Assimilating IS-

    -Waiving the American flag and adopting your new homeland.
    -Learning English or making a dang good effort to do so, there are free ESL classes folks. Churches do not charge, period.
    -Paying taxes here like you did there, I guarantee the taxes in the US are less than compulsory socialism.
    -Protesting for good reason, and not whining.
    -Fighting for your country and teaching your kids to be smart, learn and work hard. Better to earn respect than a fast buck.
    -Calling out others who give your group a bad name
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    You're right on your definition of assimilation, but as long as they pay taxes and follow the law (which they can only do if they're documented), I couldn't care less if they assimilate or want to live in their own communities. Unlike how I assume you feel, I'm not offended when I walk through Chinatown. And if you've never tried learning a new language mid-life, go ahead and try. It comes easier to some people than others. My grandparents still can't speak much English (and not for lack of trying), and we've been here since 1988.

    Edit: Lol, I looked more carefully at your "what to do and not to do lists".
    -Waiving a Mexican flag over the US Flag and burn that US flag.
    Haven't seen any US flag burnings at the immigrant protests.
    -Refusing to become citizens and pay taxes.
    Illegal immigrants don't have that choice.
    -Fighting for your country and teaching your kids to be smart, learn and work hard. Better to earn respect than a fast buck.
    That's not what Americans teach there kids - how would that be assimilation?
    -Calling everyone but your own group racist.
    This is the most popular American thing to do!
    -Protesting for good reason, and not whining.
    "Good reason"? Obviously if you care about something enough to protest, you have "good reason". Besides, in America, you can protest for a bad reason too.
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    Edit: Lol, I looked more carefully at your "what to do and not to do lists".
    -Waiving a Mexican flag over the US Flag and burn that US flag.
    Haven't seen any US flag burnings at the immigrant protests.
    AND YOU NEVER WILL SINCE THE MEDIA WILL ONLY SHOW THESE PEOPLE AS "VICTIMS"
    -Refusing to become citizens and pay taxes.
    Illegal immigrants don't have that choice.
    THEY HAD A CHOICE TO MAKE-APPLY TO BECOME US CITIZENS, OR VIOLATE US LAW- THEY CHOSE THE LATTER (ALONG WITH THE CONSEQUENCES)
    -Fighting for your country and teaching your kids to be smart, learn and work hard. Better to earn respect than a fast buck.
    That's not what Americans teach there kids - how would that be assimilation?
    I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TEACHING YOUR KIDS, BUT IF ITS NOT ANY OF THE ABOVE..YOU ARE DESTOYING YOUR KIDS LIFE
    -Calling everyone but your own group racist.
    This is the most popular American thing to do!
    ESPECIALLY LIBERALS
    -Protesting for good reason, and not whining.
    "Good reason"? Obviously if you care about something enough to protest, you have "good reason". Besides, in America, you can protest for a bad reason too.
    I'M SURE YOU WILL BE OUT THERE IN FULL FORCE WHEN NAMBLA PROTESTS EH?


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    The Confederate Flag is part of America, there are many in the south that are very proud of that flag, the reason the "politically correct do-gooder" doesn't like that flag is because that happened to be the flag that was flying during slavery. To many, that flag does not stand for Slavery, it represents "The Old South".
    Slavery was cruel and wrong (no man should own another man) but that was a way if life 500 yrs ago, Slaves were owned all over the world not just "down south", there are still salves around today and in, of all places AFRICA.

    That Was Then This Is Now.

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    We agree here - I have no problem with people flying the confederate flag. But it's unreasonable to expect a Mexican coming to America to forget their Mexican herritage. They should proudly be flying their own flags alongside the Stars and Stripes, like many immigrants at the rallies were doing.
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    Oh thats right..sorry, i forgot, liberals view people who want to secure our borders as skinheads and white supremist. Thats because liberals blame America first. Murderers, child molesters and rapists who sneak into this country illegally is all Americas fault. How utterly PATHETIC! The only enemies liberals know of reside within our borders.

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