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    We've known about this for quite some time.
     
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    As much as you want to believe it, the WMD's we were sold were the ones that had to do with Nuclear, remember all the diatribe about Yellow Cake/Nigeria... that had nothing to do with gas.

    You can rely on a blog.. or rely on what Shelton had to say..

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    The best story was the mobile WMD labs ... described as RV type vehicles that were hard to trace because they were always moving them. This story reached it's peak years ago. The blueprint before we went in was what needed to be discussed back then ... but it wasn't.

    As much as Bush was bashed and his administration was bashed the media was as much to blame for this story as anyone. People seem to forget that the Bush people had the media wrapped around their finger ... kind of like Obama had recently.

    The media perpetrated this story on the public and was as much or more to blame for all of this as Bush was. Old fashioned journalism giving way to sensationalism. If the media had done their job Bush would have been exposed before we went in ... but he wasn't.

    The real WMD is the same as it was then ... the media is our modern day WMD.
     
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    Israel.
    Sharon.
    West Bank.
    Saddam supports and pays Palestinian terrorists to matyr themselves openly.
    Sharon tells Bush if we can go into Afghanistan, He can go into Iraq.

    The rest is history.

    I am no fan of Bush. The guy was a Globalist and a puppet of his daddy's buddies. But this one gets a pass from me.
     
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    The media is an Orwellian nightmare. Both so-called "sides" of the political spectrum are using the media to further their religious grasp on power and reducing the actual input of the People. When newspapers were the only major form of periodical media, the People had a shot. Maybe it was because so many Americans were illiterate or that the written word on paper was more tangeable and permanent or that there was so much less media...

    Now the news media is nothing more than sports talk radio, rooting for one team or another...treating trivial tidbits as if they were the true issues, and picking on the flaws of every personality while ignoring the big picture. All the while, they do the bidding of their sponsors- who are exclusively corporate- who want to direct and limit the conversation.

    What Juan Williams, Rick Sanchez, and Sarah Palin do or say means nothing, except to those who want to promote themselves and distract you from the more important stuff, which is centrally the manipulation of the language, perception and "truth". As an entity, the media is nothing more than a false religion.

    And Bush was most at fault because he allowed Iraq to proceed when he knew that it should not have. Don't blame the media for being what it is.
     
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    If Clinton did what Bush did the NY Times would have a statue of him in their Lobby and Clintons Birthday would now be a national holiday.
     
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    Check out Marsall McLuhan's writings, the medium has become the message. The news folks are more important than the news... it has become about them.
     
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    I'm not blaming them ... but they need to be held accountable. They seldom portray the pros and cons of anything anymore. Bush used them to get into Iraq. Obama's string pullers used them to get him elected by bypassing the media vetting process. So let's see what's next for 2012 ... eventually someone truly bad for the country will get elected ... thanks to a corrupt media.
     
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    Let me refresh your memory about the whole media thing, at that time the whole concept of "drive by media" and "pajama's media" was invented... any criticism of this wave of patriotism was criticized as a product of media matters, markos, george soros or some huge underground conspiracy against the security of our nation..

    O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Fox News, Coulter, Malkin and the rest of the right wing "thought police" folks were all over anyone who did not march along with the azzholes who though invading Iraq was a grand and noble idea.

    All the while many spoke against it, but all of this was dismissed under the guise of security and our national interest to invade Iraq...

    IMO the tide began to turn after more and more lies were uncovered in our efforts in Iraq.. and every poster child they chose turned out to be a flat out lie..

    The relentless pounding of anyone who dissented was never more obvious than at that time... initially George and his merry bunch of neo cons rode that big wave, but as time went on the skeptics set in... it was too late then.
     
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    Non-story. Non-news. Non-vindication.

    We were well aware he had old, rotting WMD traces. We sold them to him. That's not the stuff Powell chirped about at the U.N.
     

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