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  1. mgteich

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    All that's left is a little tweaking, as should be the case before the 3rd preseason game. There have been many decisions made in the last week.

    We don’t need more than 5 receivers and 3 TE’s on the starting 53. After all, we will have two receivers and one TE on the PUP list.

    Given the injury history of our OL’s, we probably should have nine on the roster who could start THIS year. I added Mruc if Yates goes on IR. The position they fill is backup G/C.

    I have only two rooks making the squad: Meriweather and Kareem Brown.

    Obviously, Rogers could beat out Chad Brown for the last linebacker spot.

    Baker and Mitchell are fighting it out for the last ST spot.

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    AUGUST 21 MGTEICH’s 53 MAN ROSTER

    OFFENSE 24
    QB - 3 Brady, Cassell, Testaverde
    RB - 3 Maroney, Morris, Faulk
    FB - 1 Evans
    C - 2 Koppen, Hochstein
    G - 3 Neal, Mankins, Yates/(Mruczkowski)
    OT - 4 Light, Kaycur, O'Callaghan, Britt
    WR - 5 Moss, Stallworth, Welker, Gaffney, Washington/(Caldwell)
    TE - 3 Watson, Brady, Rivers

    DEFENSE 24
    DE - 3 Seymour, Warren, Green
    DT - 3 Wilfork, Wright, Le Kevin Smith
    DL 0
    LB - 5 Vrabel, Colvin, Thomas, Bruschi, Seau
    CB - 4 Hobbs, Gay, Meriweather, James/(Richardson)/(Samuel)
    S - 3 Wilson, Harrison, Sanders
    ST 6 Alexander, Woods, Izzo, Andrews, Wesley, Mitchell/(Baker)

    THE LAST TWO (could be any position)
    2 Chad Brown/(Rogers), Kareem Brown

    SPECIALISTS (3)
    P - 1 Baugher
    K - 1 Gostkowski
    LS - 1 Paxton

    PUP
    Brown
    Thomas
    Jackson
    Jackson

    IR
    Scott
    Hairston

    PRACTICE SQUAD
    Offense: Gutierrez, Elgin, Oldenberg, Mills
    Defense: Rogers, Thomas, Rogers, Richardson

    LAST CUTS
    Moore, Kenny Smith, Mills, Richardson, Caldwell, Rogers
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    I just hope Rogers will make it in the roster. Liked him very much against Bucs.
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    That looks right. I dont see Caldwell making this team unless he really brings it on Fri.

    Aside from Chad Milking, who is the other Jackson on the PUP?
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    I'll be shocked if Caldwell doesn't make it.
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    I'd be equally shocked if Richardson is cut outright. At the very least, the guy has shown some skills and will be placed on the practice squad. I think he has a decent chance at the 53 man roster myself, particularly if Samuel continues to hold out.
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    Where's Childress?
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    moore would be nice insurance at the nose, big bulky and has played the position in our scheme with the jets, the nose tackle is critical in the 3 4,
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    Chad Brown - no way. Rogers is a keeper.

    Why waste a 53 roster spot on Vinnie who will be available via the shadow roster if and when we need him? That spot is for Richardson.
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    He has to be cut before he can make the practice squad. Other teams will have a shot at him on wavers, then if he's still available, can be signed. I agree with the list pretty much, except I see Mills in and Rivers out, and even tho Reche is struggling, I see him beating out Washington..
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    Why keep Mills? What has he shown? Zilch, including in the open summer camp reports posted here. Please don't cite how well he appeared in 2006 pre-season. You KNOW that that means Zip to BB.
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    and rivers has done...?
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    Eddie. He is a veteran CB (CAR, MIA) Who blew out his ACL last year. They signed him to a 2-year deal knowing he wouldn't be ready until later this season or next season.
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    He's a TE, which we need until Thomas returns, not a tweener who can't find his tween.
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    actaully he didnt look bad against tampa for being in camp for 2 days
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    Vinnie...?

    Vinnie the QB that we just signed?
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    Hmmm...looking over your depth chart, I see as many as eleven jobs still in doubt. (Note that a couple of players appear in more than one row.)

    OL: pick 2 of Yates, Mruczkowski, Elgin, Britt, Oldenberg
    TE: Mills vs. Rivers
    DL: pick 2 of Smith, Moore, K. Brown
    OLB: Rogers vs. C. Brown
    ST: pick 3 of Izzo, Wesley, Mitchell, Childress, Washington, Rogers
    WR: Caldwell vs. Washington
    CB: Richardson vs. James vs. Samuel
    Last guy: take your pick, but if Samuel returns at the 11th hour then one of the CBs is a good bet.
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    Oh, Thanks. Didn't know we had a fast Eddie.
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    I think the Pats will keep 6 WRs. With both Gaffney and Moss out for an indefinite amount of time and Stallworth and Welker still struggling with some of their routes, I think the Pats are going to keep as many WRs as they can. I think Caldwell's experience with the offense and his blocking abilities (he is the best blocking WR on the roster), I think he is almost uncutable at this point in time especially if Gaffney is out of the line up going into the start of the season. I can't see the Pats starting the season with no WRs with prior real game experience in this offense on the active roster vs. the Jets.

    I think Washington will be the sixth WR, but Childress may overtake him with a couple more good performances. Other than his two catches in the first game, Washington I have not heard or seen one thing positive about his ability on offense.
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    Good stuff to ponder. I'll agree that if Gaffney's out for game one, Caldwell must be on the roster. (I think he makes it regardless, actually.) And Childress, like Washington, can return kicks.

    Bam is cheap, diligent, knows the system, and is one of those UDFAs BB loves to sign as a signal of open competition and the value of hard work. But man is he tiny. I mean, Mike-Reiss-interviewing-Kyle-Brady kind of tiny.
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    I think Childress wins the "54th man" award for the most transactions in one year. He could be signed, cut, signed to the PS, cut and resigned half a dozen times this year as injuries and the inevitable wear and tear on special teamers mount. I think JeRod Cherry holds the record for one season.

    Unless he gets picked up by the Jets.
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    59 Maugaula Tuitele LB[​IMG]
    Height: 6-1 Weight: 250
    Year: 2 Yrs/Pat: 2
    Acquired: FA-02
    School: Colorado State
    Major: Liberal Arts
    Born: May 26, 1978 Torrance Calif.
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    Maugaula N. Tuitele was born the son of Gafanua and Saga Tuitele in Torrance, Calif. on May 26, 1978 ... Led Pacific (Calif.) High in tackles all three years as a starter ... Named all-conference twice and named all-state as a senior ... Played fullback on offense and gained over 700 yards with 12 touchdowns as senior ... Also lettered in basketball and track and field in high school ... Majored in liberal arts at Colorado State ... Maugaula and his wife, Tricia, have two children, Tamatane and John.
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    Thanks. I knew that there was some guy who seemed to be in and out of the door on a weekly basis, but I thought it was a cornerback or safety (not Hank Poteat!)
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    Yes.
    Vin is here to learn the O and prepare for the shadow roster where he's available without taking a 53 spot. Only if Cassel is really injured will Vin be on the 53 September 9th.
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    okay--just kind of confused me--i suppose that we could sign him, and then cut him again in a couple of weeks
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    Good catch. I have added Richardson to the Practice Squad.

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    You might be thinking of Sean Morey, but no one has Tuitele beat.

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    I'd keep Richardson and cut James if he is as bad as people say. I didn't personally notice his play, but I've never seen a player get all negative comments from writers and posters.

    Meriweather is not a cornerback, he's a safety. Tebucky Jones was a cornerback this time of year too.

    If James can't play anymore, I'd try to pick up a vet who could still play corner in a pinch if our starters went down.

    I'd say Richardson and Wilson should be working at corner.

    Nickel is fine for Meriweather. Troy can play the slot and he's not a corner either.
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    Tony "Cut Bait' Gaiter might give him a run for his money.
    Guy was SO short he'd get lost in the grass when they didn't mow the field.
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    I think I heard Yates recently practiced. Anyone else hear it?
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    Tiny nitpick: three, including Baugher.

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