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  1. Armen Da Pats Fan

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    It's Tye Hill, CB, Clemson.

    Heard him on Sirius NFL yesterday and it sounds like the Pats could be very interested in him as a second rounder, if he's still there...

    Here is the skinny on him:

    http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/cb/tyehill.html

    ADPF

    PS: I have also heard talk about another corner, Richard Marshall from Fresno State and a WR, Sinorice Moss, from Miami...
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    You're gonna get slammed for suggesting Hill, or others, could fall but the reality is it's a deep, deep draft and some good players will be there. Hill ? Maybe not. But there's more chance of a player of his quality being there for our #2 pick then some want to acknowledge.
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    Richard Marshall won't last past early round 2 I'd love to pick that guy up. Tye Hill is another Smurf DB we don't need.
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    Ellis Hobbs worked out okay, didn't he?
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    Hobbs is 5'7" on a good day. 2 inches is a bit of a difference.
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    believe me tye hill does not last until the second round, let alone get to our pick in the second
    some will have him first on their cb draft chart
    not me though

    also, he is not our type of cb
    he is all about speed and thats it

    he's not physical at all, and he's terrible out of his hip breaks
    in short, he's a raiders type of cb
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    Hill won't last until round 2 - might not even last until 21.

    And if anyone is paying attention the last few years, everyone is turning to smaller CBs because the enforcement of illegal contact is making the big physical CB a dinosaur. The big guys can't put their hands on the WRs and with the exception of the very few elite big guys they can't run with WRs.

    What good is a the size a big corner brings when he can't cover anyone?
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    Although I agree on Hill, I wish I'd kept a list of players who won't make it to Round X for our pick. Because I know some of them will. I think it's 50-50 that Marshall makes it to our Round 2 pick.
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    Hill seems to think the Pats are interested in him, but I can't imagine them using their #21 pick on him. In that case, it would have to be the second rounder...

    ADPF
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    I'm betting if you told Hill that Pats were interested in him but not at 21 his question would be how much higher they are trading up to get him.
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    That could have been where he was going and I might have just missed it...

    Although, the interviewers were saying things like "We know Belichick likes to rank players and if you're still on the board..."

    I assumed they meant second rounder because I can't see the Pats using the #21 on anything but a linebacker.

    ADPF
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    There is always the possibility of a trade down in the 1st, or trade up in the 2nd.
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    As of right now, pretty much every draft website has Tye Hill as a mid-first round pick. Could he be there at 21? Yes. 52? Probably not. But the question is, do we even want him? To me, he is too much of a finesse CB for our system. Our CBs are gamers that will hit you in the mouth. Hill? Not so much. He relies a lot on his speed, but managed to get beaten quite a few times by Sinorice Moss in the Senior Bowl, including a big TD in the corner of the endzone. I think Hill can become a good player, just not for us.
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    I could not agree more. We definetly need to get bigger at CB, not smaller.
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    My dream is for Lawson or Carpenter or Greenway to be around at #21, and that Marshall slides to #52. My guess is that we'll get the LB in the 1st, and that we'll trade up in the 2nd round to land Marshall.
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    Of the two (Hill and Marshall) Marshall is more likely to slide well into the second round. He got eaten up by the kid from Oregon D Williams and he has a reputation as a bit of a guesser/gambler.

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