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The Worst Expected 2010 State Budget Gaps

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    #95 Jersey



    If I were a trouble maker, I'd note that 12 of those 15 states were Blue states that voted Democratic in 2008...
    Put another way of the 29 states that voted for Obama, 12 are in trouble.
    Of the 21 that voted for for McCain, 3 are on the list....
    Draw your own conclusions...

    15. Wisconsin
    14. Oregon
    13. Hawaii
    12. Louisiana **
    11. Washington
    10. New Jersey
    9. Illinois
    8. Connecticut
    7. Vermont
    6. California
    5. Florida
    4. Arizona **
    3. Alaska ****
    2. New York
    1. Nevada
    **voted Republican for President in 2008

    Election maps
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    It was my first reaction when i looked at it. These states could turn to blue in 2010 or 2012.
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    Or to put it another, realistic way, seven of these state had Republican Governors.. so they could flip Dem next time.. 4 of the first 5 are all Republican..

    It does not have as much to do with Obama as it does with spending more than they take in.. the budgets were all enacted last year, and the shortcomings are from that cycle.. if you look at most of these states these issues have been brewing for a while.. not as a result of the past 130 days...

    But I would expect this type of short sighted reasoning from the righties, who start to orgasm over anything that can be portrayed possibly Obama bad..
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    Obama doesn't want to give stimulus checks to republican governors. Would you think that Obama cares about the people instead of republican governors? We'll see what happens in 2010 and 2012.
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    How does Alaska manage to get themselves in trouble? They get a big, giant wet kiss from the oil industry every single year. I think Alaskan taxpayers spend more on Moose repellent than they do to have cops, or to put their kids through school or any of the other stuff that all of the rest of us have to actually pay for, yet here they are way up at the top...

    Sounds like they have some real leadership issues there.
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    A portion of the money derived from the oil industry in Alaska goes into what is called a "Permanent Fund". At present I believe it stands in excess of $20 Billion. Alaska's deficit is on paper only.
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    errrr.......so all the decisions made in states are done so by the governor? these states have no legislators???? your point is a bit thin
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    The article is a little extreme, because it takes 2007 Census figures for revenue, and puts them up against the highest budget estimates for FY 2009, and 2010. So they use old revenue figures from 2 years ago, and the most extreme budget figures of the future. Apply salt basically.
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    About as thin as the original premise which you were silent on, this thread starts with some rightie talk about how these states might flip republican in a national election because of deficit issues.. I am pointing out is they are led by republicans in 7 instances.. do not want to research the composition of the legislatures... the original premise is idiotic..
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    of course you don't want to research.....you simply stop at the first answer that you want and forget the rest

    1 - Nevada.....both house and senate are controlled by the dems.......66.7% of the assembly is democrat
    2 - NY......both house and senate are controlled by dems
    3 - AK ..... split (house is repub)
    4 - AZ....both repub
    5 - FL....both repub
    6 - CA....both dem
    7 - VT....both dem
    8 - CT....both dem
    9 - IL....both dem
    10 - NJ....both dem
    11 - WA....both dem
    12 - LA....both dem
    13 - HI....both dem
    14 - OR....both dem
    15 - WI....both dem

    all of which approve state operating budgets.......so yeah, it is almost unanimously democrat..........

    feel free to spin
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    Good work will take your word for it, you obviously have more idle time than I, but going back to the original premise is that folks will flip from Dem to Republican based on this may be erroneous.. the reality is that 7 of the 15 are Republican.. and 4 of the top 5 are Republican.. most folks that vote blame the financial stuff on the elected leader.

    I live in a state, that is run by a Republican and the legislature is overwhelmingly Democratic.. most folks, I talk to, blame the Governor for the mess we are in.
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    so in this instance, they are correct, right? if it was the other way around, you would obviously omit this blurb

    btw, took me 5 minutes

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