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    Another productive day at the office....


    1. Miami - Chris Long DL/OLB Virginia -- Parcells has said that he doesn't know what kind of defense he's going to use this year, which means he's going to see what kind of personnel he can put together and then see what their suited for. Long here is the smart pick. He's a tough kid that's been around football all his life, loves the game, and knows how to act professionally. More importantly, he's versatile enough to be an immediate contributor in either the 4-3 or the 3-4.

    2. St. Louis - Glenn Dorsey DL LSU -- I was tempted to go OT here, since the Rams OL was historically bad last year, but they also need help on the defensive interior, and there's a better chance that they can get a starting-caliber OT later than a starting-caliber DT. Plus Ochmed would metaphorically go upside the head if I didn't go defense here.

    3. Atlanta - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas -- This pick is subject to a coin flip, but since the Raiders suck, let's say Atlanta wins. Plus, Al Davis can go on another conspiracy rant. I refuse to believe that Matt Ryan is the answer here. Tom Dimitroff would probably prefer Jake Long or Sedric Ellis, but Arthur Blank is no dummy, and will likely nudge Dimitroff in McFadden's direction. The Falcons have had their worst year since their inception from a PR perspective (Vick, Open mutiny in the locker room, Petrino) and played several home non-sell outs, which is ridiculous for the NFL circa 2007. They also have two running backs incapable of being a full-time guy. McFadden helps on both counts. He'll sell jerseys and tickets, and he can team up with Jerious Norwood to give Atlanta a credible run game, with Warrick Dunn nudged gracefully towards retirement.

    4. Oakland - Sedric Ellis DT USC -- Having been burned by the last Big Ten lineman he drafted high (in the draft), Al Davis, getting increasingly lazy in his old age, sees a dominant defensive lineman without having to look outside his home state. Which leaves plenty of time for napping.

    5. Kansas City - Jake Long OT Michigan -- I don't think Brody Croyle is going to make Chiefs fans forget Len Dawson....or even the aging Joe Montana. However, I think he'll end up being good enough to win with...if they can get their protection straight. The days of the Chiefs being synonymous with great line play is long gone, and in fact, their line is a few clicks south of terrible. Long's the guy.

    6. New York Jets - Vernon Gholston LB Ohio St -- Let's see...drafting Ryan would be an admission of missing on Kellen Clemens. Drafting Clady would be an admission of missing on D'Brickashaw. I don't think either of these things are true, and more importantly, Bradway and Mantits are too proud too admit it if they were. It's possible that they could trade the pick to somebody who wants Ryan, but I think that the Jets pettiness will see Gholston making the Patriots even better, and will draft him so that doesn't happen.

    7. New England - We know that Matt Ryan would be an ideal quarterback for the new regime to develop. Are there any other teams out there looking for him? Possibly Carolina and Chicago. At the very least, Baltimore would be willing to flip picks with us to prevent that from happening. Chicago has an extra pick, so let's look at what would likely be the packages: From Baltimore, we could get probably the #8 pick and a fourth rounder. From Chicago, we could get probably get #14 and #44. So where would Belichick be more comfortable drafting? Between the cornerbacks, Clady, and the rush linebackers, I think Belichick will take the chance on somebody
    he likes there at #14 in order to pick up the second rounder. PROJECTED TRADE: New England trades the #7 pick to Chicago for the #14 and #44 picks. The Bears select Matt Ryan QB Boston College.

    8. Baltimore - Ryan Clady OT Boise St -- With Jonathan Ogden leaning towards retirement, an immediate replacement is a must.

    9. Cincinnati - Keith Rivers LB USC -- Cincinnati keeps drafting linebackers that fail them, in either health or keeping out of trouble. They could use a running back, since I can envision them pulling the plug on Rudi Johnson, and going into the season with Kenny Watson, Chris Perry, Kenny Irons, and Quincy Wilson is no way to get through life. But running backs can be found later and in free agency. Play-making linebackers, not so much.

    10. New Orleans - Leodis McKelvin CB Troy -- More than anything else, New Orleans needs a better flood management system and money to rebuild. Next on the list is somebody who can cover. McKelvin's sticky like glue. And this could launch a run on cornerbacks.

    11. Buffalo - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma -- If nothing else, Marv Levy has proven two things -- he can lose Super Bowls, and he's not afraid to "reach" for a player. Buffalo's needs are at MLB and WR, so failing a trade, do they reach for a big target like Kelly, or do they reach for a guy like Curtis Lofton/Phillip Wheeler? You can never have too many guys who can cover, but Buffalo needs some reliable targets for the quarterbacks. Lee Evans is getting lonely. Linebacker will have to wait.

    12. Denver - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida -- The once-impressive stable of cornerbacks needs replenishing. There's just no depth here anymore.

    13. Carolina - Brian Brohm QB Louisville -- One of the surest bets in the offseason is that David Carr will no longer be employed by the Panthers. Brohm would be a logical candidate to succeed Delhomme.

    14. New England (from Chicago) -- Aqib Talib CB Kansas -- Essentially, the choices are Derrick Harvey, Kenny Phillips, or whatever CB BB prefers, and it will probably be determined by free agency gains or losses. I think Harvey could be dynamite, but it's a high risk to use a pick this high on a guy who hasn't played standing up. I don't get the first-round status assigned to Phillips, personally, and I don't think using back-to-back first rounders on safeties is the answer. Nor is he an upgrade on James Sanders. Therefore, let's go best available cornerback. To my eyes, that's Talib.

    15. Detroit - Kenny Phillips S Miami -- Detroit clearly needs major help on the defensive interior, but it's just not there right now. Next item on the list is secondary.

    16. Arizona - Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois -- Mendenhall seems to be a perfect guy to take over for the Edge. He'll be a monster in the Whisenhunt/Carthon/Grimm offense.

    17. Minnesota - Derrick Harvey DE Florida The needs are fairly simple -- catching the ball, and preventing your opponent from catching the ball. Then again, it appears Kenechi Udezi is going away for a while, so Harvey makes perfect sense here.

    18. Houston - Sam Baker OT USC -- Wow, Houston's drafting late this year!

    19. Philadelphia - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St -- I think the Eagles underestimated how much worse their pass defense would be without Rod Hood.

    20. Tampa Bay - Limas Sweed WR Texas -- When Joey Galloway (37) and Ike Hilliard (32) are your two best receivers, that's a clear cry for help.

    21. Washington - Early Doucett WR LSU -- When Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle-El are your two best receivers, that's a clear indication that your better off than Tampa Bay...but not by much.

    22. Dallas (from Cleveland) - Felix Jones RB Arkansas -- We all knew that Jerry Jones was infatuated with an Arkansas running back....

    23. Pittsburgh - Jeff Otah T Pittsburgh -- OL and DL depth seem to be the trouble spots. I'm sure they're very familiar with Otah.

    24. Tennessee - Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee -- Going over their roster, the Titans are solid at every position. QB and RB could be improved, but they're committed to Vince Young, and I don't think this is the spot for another RB for them, given two second round picks the previous two years, so it really comes down to solid rotational guys in the linebacking corps or at defensive tackle. With the big nasties up front taking on the blockers, a swift, sure-tackling MLB could really shore up the defense here. Mayo fits the bill.

    25. Seattle - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon -- Some say Shaun Alexander is over the hill. Some say he's never gotten over his foot injury. Some say he misses Hutchinson. I say his biggest problem is that he's gotten soft after his big payday. You cannot say that about Stewart. This seems a perfect fit.

    26. Jacksonville - Calais Campbell DE Miami -- CB depth is probably more pressing, but the value here is at the DE spot. Campbell can be dropped seamlessly into the rotation.

    27. San Diego - Mario Manningham WR Michigan -- Another target for Rivers could really open things up on this offense. He'll battle with Eric Parker for the #3 spot.

    28. Dallas - Antoine Cason CB Arizona -- When Dallas wasn't outscoring folks, they weren't winning. That sounds rather obvious, doesn't it. What I mean is that Dallas couldn't stop anybody's passing game, so they put too much pressure on the offense to score every possession. Cason will help.

    29. San Francisco - Kentwan Balmer DL North Carolina -- Good options on the board for offensive tackles and 3-4 ends, which the Niners need badly.

    30. Green Bay - Chad Henne QB Michigan -- Here's a team with decent starters everywhere. However, nobody knows what's on 4's mind, and Aaron Rodgers might be a UFA before Favre retires. Henne could have a shot to be the next link in the Dickey-Majkowski-Favre line.

    31. New York Giants - Dan Connor LB Penn St -- Well, we know they don't need another pass-rushing lineman. They do need some linebacking help however.
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    2nd Round

    32. Miami - Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt

    33. St. Louis - DeSean Jackson WR California

    34. Oakland - Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma

    35. Kansas City - Tracy Porter CB Indiana

    36. New York Jets - Red Bryant NT Texas A&M

    37. Atlanta - Andre Woodson QB Kentucky

    38. Baltimore - Curtis Lofton LB Oklahoma

    39. San Fransisco - Carl Nicks T Nebraska

    40. New Orleans - Xavier Adibi LB Virginia Tech

    41. Buffalo - Phillip Wheeler LB Georgia Tech

    42. Denver - Phillip Merling DE Clemson

    43. Carolina - Ali Highsmith LB LSU

    44. New England (from Chicago) - Ezra Butler LB Nevada

    45. Detroit - Pat Sims DT Auburn

    46. Cincinnati - Andre Caldwell WR Florida

    47. Minnesota - PROJECTED TRADE -- The Vikings trade the #47 pick to the Giants for TE Jeremy Shockey. The Giants select Patrick Lee CB Auburn

    48. Atlanta - Quentin Groves DE Auburn

    49. Philadelphia - James Hardy WR Indiana

    50. Arizona - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt

    51. Washington - PROJECTED TRADE -- Washington trades the #51 pick and their 2009 first rounder to Cincinnati for WR Chad Johnson. The Bengals select Gosder Cherilus T Boston College

    52. Tampa Bay - Josh Johnson QB San Diego

    53. Pittsburgh - Marcus Harrison DL Arkansas

    54. Tennessee - Devin Thomas WR Michigan St

    55. Seattle - Charles Godfrey CB Iowa

    56. Cleveland - Beau Bell LB UNLV

    57. Miami - DeJuan Tribble CB Boston College

    58. Jacksonville - Justin King CB Penn St

    59. Indianapolis - Branden Flowers CB Virginia Tech

    60. Green Bay - Anthony Collins T Kansas

    61. Dallas - Erin Henderson LB Maryland

    62. New England - Lavelle Hawkins WR California

    63. New York Giants - Heath Benedict T Newbury



    3rd Round

    64. Miami - John Carlson TE Notre Dame

    65. St. Louis - Oneil Cousins T UTEP

    66. Kansas City - Eric Young G Tennessee

    67. New York Jets - Martin Rucker TE Missouri

    68. Atlanta - Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma St

    69. New England - Brad Cottam TE Tennessee

    70. San Francisco - Chris Jackson RB East Carolina

    71. Buffalo - Fred Davis TE USC

    72. Buffalo - Latroy Guion DT Florida St

    73. Minnesota - Terrell Thomas CB USC

    74. Carolina - Steve Slaton RB West Virginia

    75. Chicago - Dre Moore DT Maryland

    76. Detroit - Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech

    77. Cincinnati - Ray Rice RB Rutgers

    78. New Orleans - Kevin Smith RB Central Florida

    79. Houston - Jason Jones DE Eastern Michigan

    80. Philadelphia - Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame

    81. Arizona - Shawn Crable LB Michigan

    82. Minnesota - DeJuan Morgan DB North Carolina St

    83. Tampa Bay - Trae Williams CB South Florida

    84. Washington - Quentin Demps S UTEP

    85. Tennessee - Jamaal Charles RB Texas

    86. Seattle - Branden Albert G Virginia

    87. Cleveland - Tashard Choice RB Georgia Tech

    88. Pittsburgh - Cliff Avril LB Purdue

    89. Jacksonville - Lawrence Jackson DE USC

    90. Chicago - Matt Forte RB Tulane

    91. Green Bay - Terrence Wheatley CB Colorado

    92. Dallas - Donnie Avery WR Houston

    93. Indianapolis - Bruce Davis DE UCLA

    94. New England - Dwight Lowery CB San Diego St.

    95. New York Giants - Jamar Adams S Michigan
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    Based on what I know about the players right now, that's a very good mock.

    However, I still have a feeling that the Patriots will trade #7 for a veteran player and a first or second rounder. Don't ask me who.
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    Sorry. I'm not asking you to commit to a single name here, but at least give us an example or two. :)
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    Excellent effort Dryheat. I would be very happy with the trade you outlined and it makes a lot of sense that Chicago would ned to leapfrog Baltimore to get a shot at Ryan.

    If Chicago made that same trade that you outlined with the Jets, and Chicgo took Ryan, would you then have the Pats take Gholston?
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    Barring a trade-down, I think so, and hope that Porter, Godfrey, Lee, or Flowers falls to the second rounder.
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    If Moss proves unwilling to re-sign, his name might rhyme with Thad Bronson.
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    Quenton Groves is a steal at #48
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    We could be talking Bradie James and Dallas moving up to get McFadden if his still there.
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    Good Effort, DH.

    My .02.

    1) Talib - I prefer Cason over him, but Talib over McKelvin or Jenkins. So I could live with Talib.
    2a) Butler - I've read nothing that makes me believe he's a Patriots-type player other than he could be a good two down ILB who can stuff the run. Attitude problems. Over-runs plays and then gives up on them. Not good in coverage. Poor Technique. Seems like a big reach at #44. Most places I've seen have him as a 3rd/4th round pick. If the Pats were going to reach for a player, Goff would be a better reach in my opinion.
    2b) Hawkins - Not sure that the Pats would use a 2nd round pick on a punter return/ kicker return guy. I'd rather a guy like RB Chris Johnson or WR Dexter Jackson later in the draft over Hawkins. Particularly with pressing needs at LB, CB, and OG.
    3a) Cottam - The Pats have 4 TEs signed currently and Spach showed very good blocking ability. Not sure the Pats would draft ANOTHER TE this high when they have pressing needs at LB, CB, and OG.
    3b) Lowery - I don't like to see things like " Liability in run support" and "not a good tackler". I'd rather the Pats look at RB Chris Johnson here over Lowery.
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    Just wanted to let you know that it is Chris Johnson, not Jackson. But otherwise a great looking draft, you did a good job.
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    Good effort DH. I am surprised that you don't have Joe Flacco anywhere in the 3 rounds. Maybe I missed him but he goes in the 2nd round to a QB needy team. Maybe Atlanta.
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    Dammit...Chris Jackson sits in the cubicle next to mine. He probably walked by as I was typing.

    And thanks everyone for the insight and comments. There will probably be a few revisions between now and the draft.
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    I dont know. 2 Corners and another 2nd round wide receiever sounds like a bad idea for some reason.
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    Good work to put together all three rounds. I commend you on that.

    I'm a Bills fan, so I'll probably be a little critical on those ones but overall it's a different and interesting mock that I wouldn't mind having. But in the first round, you say our needs are MLB and WR. To be picky, we have Poz at MLB - it's WLB that's the main need as far as LB's go. I'd also say that DT is our biggest need alongside of WR. Overall, good job though. Also, Fred Davis probably will go in the second round, if not the late first (like Greg Olsen).

    Not the players I would have picked, but you do a good job of choosing players that would fill needs for our team. Oh, and I trust Buffalo's scouting department. Lynch was considered a reach last year and he ended up being just as valuable, if not more, than the 12th overall pick. We couldn't be happier. So I wouldn't care if the Bills "reach" for anyone. It's usually worth it.

    As far as NE goes, that's a good draft. But I highly doubt anyone will be willing to trade up, especially with NE after the debacle with SF this past year.

    If it were me, I'd do mocks without assuming a trade, but hope for one anyway. But that's just me.
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    Sorry but I don't see this happening. If one thing for sure about the Chicago Bears, that organization is cheap. Also the Bears have a recent history of trading down especially in the first and second rounds.

    2003 Bears trade 4th overall draft pick to Jets
    2006 Bears trade 26th overall draft pick to Bills
    2007 Bears trade 37th overall draft pick to Chargers

    Also, the last time the Chicago Bears drafted a player in the top ten, they got burnt to a crisp ....... Cedric Benson.
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    MAybe the Bears are cheap, but the NFL is such a QB driven league now, that if there is one position any team is going to trade up for, it is a QB.

    I think Dryheat hit this trade on the head and I would love to see it happen.
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    I won't suprised if the patriots would take Ray Rice with their 62 or 69 pick. BB is known for taking picks from the colleges where he knows the head coach. This year, Rutgers head coach was at the patriots training camp and also BB was wearing Rutgers logo during some of the Superbowl press conferences.
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    That was one of his sons' lacrosse jackets from Rutgers. Don't read anymore into that.
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    Solid, yet I have one major issue.

    Heatster not sure if you watched the Senior Bowl or not, but Cherilus graded out as low round R1 high R2 pick before the game and he only helped himself after the game, he was Zeus-like at RT, a man-child in this game. He will go higher than where you have him now.

    Sorry to be picky...............
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