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  1. fumbrunner

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    I am sick of seeing all these threads comparing the current situation to Brady coming in for Bledsoe. I think it is insulting to everything that Brady has brought to this franchise. what happened when Bledsoe got hurt is a once in a lifetime story where possibly the best QB of all time began his career and led a mediocre team to the SB. Comparing Cassel, who has proved zip after one week, to that situation is a complete and utter insult to Brady. Cassel is not and will never be at Brady's level.

    So lets all get a little realistic. Lets hope Cassel can do enough to get us to the playoffs and hopefully we can make a run.
     
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    Come off it already! Brady wasn't nearly the QB he is now back in '01.
     
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    Cassel has proved in one week exactly what Brady proved in his first full game. He can win.

    I don't understand why we only want there to be one or two elite QB's in the league. I'm rooting for the next generation of awesome QB's and Cassel now gets a chance to show if his investment in patience was worth it.

    There are a couple of other new NFL QB's who may well be the next gen of elite Quarterback. Promoting Cassel to an outside shot at being special is no more ridiculous than flat out saying he'll never be at Brady's level.

    I doubt many people in 2001 thought Brady would ever hold TD records.
     
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    Most will bash you but I will agree

    Some of the poor fellas have to have something of a glimmer of hope to beleive in that Mr.Matt Cassel will throw for 3,000 yards and 25 TDs or something of that nature - I think some are stuck in a 2001 timewarp

    Before Brady's injury if you had said that some other Patriots QB in the future would duplicate his effort in 2001 they would have stoned you against a wall telling you no one will ever do what Brady did in his 'rookie' season as starting QB - Brady's first year in taking a so so team to a SB Title is untouchable they would say BEFORE the injury.

    Now a guy without a start in College is going to do it say some - All I can say is let them be naive - Its the way it is in homerville -

    If would love to eat crow by having this fantasy come true because it would mean great things for the Pats but you know its a pretty good longshot.

    If Cassel just lets the cast around him perform admirably and he tosses a 5 or 10 yarder every now and then the team may do just fine - If he steps up into the pocket and zeroes in on his target like he always does without faking out the better corners and safeties in thsi league he will be torched and often.
     
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    Ah yes, I could see it now. Montana, Manning, Brady and Cassel. All this after one game where they beat one of the poorest teams in the league at home.

    You guys make it sound like Brady's achievements are so easily achieved. Like I said, lets wait a few games before making him the next coming of Brady.
     
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    Belichick is a genius. He can find qb's in the 6th and 7th round that go onto become mvps. First Brady, now Cassell. Its all the system so dont worry about it. :mad::mad::mad:
     
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    *sigh*

    Have it your way and pretend it wasn't hard to beat the poorest team or whatever on a moment's notice and with your offense watching the tunnel.
     
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    not exactly once in a lifetime, as roethlisberger won a sb filling in for pitt's injured qb as well, but yeah, he didn't expound on that past the second season
     
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    Brady earned our respect over 7 years of winning. Cassell has won one game.What has Cassell done except set on the bench for four years? this is the pros I say prove it like Brady did.
     
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    What was Bradys achievements after 1 game? 1 win. So far Cassel has matched him.

    Yes, he's not Brady. That does not mean he doesn't have potential.
     
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    Well I'm sick of the revisionist history. Tom Brady in 2001 was not a HOF QB and nowhere near as good as he has become. In 2001 he DID HIS JOB, as did 52 other players.
     
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    How did he win? - The defense was the reason the team won that game with a last minute stand to avoid overtime and if KC won the coin toss who knows? - The way Huard was playing the game could have been in jeopardy - Scoring 17 against one of the youngest defenses in the league and without their all pro defensive end who left for minnesota was not exactly breath taking - DON'T OVEREXAGGERATE

    Cassel played decent last week against a KC team that will be battling with the raiders for last in their division - not a very good team and this week the Jets are not exactly world beaters either - Lets see him opposite Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger this season and see if he can keep up with the points before you crown him as anything near an average QB

    Brady touched the football in College,not always holding the clipboard

    Brady played so well in preseason and camp that BB was actually going to start him over Bledsoe in week 1 of the 2001 season - Cassel was (cough)..0 for 17 in TD drives..(cough)

    Cassel can either become a solid FA next season or possibly be signed to a PS
     
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    And I don't disagree with that. I just disagree with writing off his potential.

    He's 1-0. Good start, imo.
     
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    There is only one Tom Brady.

    Lets give Cassel 6 or 8 games to see who Matt Cassel is.

    I hope Matt Cassel is 1/2 as good as Tom Brady. I would be happy with that, as I am sure he would.
     
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    WTF is it with you people over exaggerating the QB position? The 2001 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS won the f'ing superbowl, not Tom fricking Brady.

    Tom Brady wasn't out there slapping Marshall Faulk in the face. He wasn't out there stopping Edge on a goalline stance. Seriously, WTF. Get a grip and get some damn perspective.

    Tom Brady brings this team from great to potentially greatest ever, he doesn't bring it from average/below-average to potentially greatest ever. So sick of you Cassel haters and forever pessimists exaggerating EVERYTHING.
     
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    IIRC Brady's first start was against Manning and Company who were starting to become a force in the AFC at that time - Kansas City is a doormat team - Don't dare compare the debut of both QBs,its retarded
     
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    One last comment here: How on earth would Brady be insulted to see a guy he's been mentoring and will continue to be mentoring succeed?

    He just simply wouldn't be insulted by Patriots fans hoping Matt rocks the field.
     
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    ...and I'm sure Bledsoe would have led them to the Superbowl if he had not gotten hurt...and the second......and the third.
     
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    The insult in the comparison has nothing to do with Cassel.

    The insult is when they compare losing Brady to losing Bledsoe. One guy is the best QB in the league in his prime, the other was nothing more than a mediocre football player whose career was in decline.
     
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    Roethlisberger didn't win a superbowl in his first year filling in for an injured starter...

    And the situation being compared is simply being an unheralded late round draft pick who projected to a backup AT BEST coming in for an injured franchise QB with little or no NFL game experience. In that respect it is similar whether you like it or not...one led his team to a superbowl. It remains to be seen what the other will do.

    I don't see people saying Cassel has or will become Brady, just the occasional knee jerk reaction to any comparison. Brady only had a year in the system at the time, but he started 20 games in college over 2 seasons. Cassel didn't play in college but he's been in the system for 3 years and been the #2 backup here for 38 games... The system wasn't as evolved then, but there was also a lot less talent available on offense as well.
     
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