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    As much as she is innapropriate, and needs to be punished.. maybe she should start by learning how to control a class...

    Is is good that students can tape the goings on in a classroom??? Seems that this could lead to a slippery slope and infrindge upon her or any teacher's rights and possibly be illegal.

    Seems as though kids will be gaining a lot of power if this is allowed, apparently they did not bother with a chain of command.. and unintended consequences may ensue... can you imagine the threats in a classroom...

    Going viral with a video is not the best way to proceed in an adult child relationship.. could have been handled differently, with the same outcome.

    However there is great tolerance for this type of thing in this modern O'Keefian world, where the means justify the ends.. situational ethics.

    North Carolina Recording Law | Citizen Media Law Project

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    Well you are right the kids were very rude. It also appears that the student who got her to go off the deep end set her up and taping the incident was planned.

    The reason is that this Social Studies teacher was using her classroom to push her agenda. This is wrong to do in a classroom. Perhaps the kids know the administration would do nothing to this teacher for trying to brainwash the kids.
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    You do not really know this.. this setting sounds like one where hysteria is the order of the day and it could be rampant throughout the school.

    Very concerned about social media and its usage, everytime something happens do things need to go viral?? Kids might be better served to put away the phones and do class work..
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    According to the kid this sort of partisan trashing was normal.
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    Here is the 9 minute video of this.

    Teacher yells at student because of a question he asked about Obama! - YouTube

    This woman does not have control of her class. She is clearly an obama supporter while the kid she was arguing with was saying that if you bash one side then you should bash the other side. Also, this woman has no true facts. You cannot be arrested for bashing the president. If that was the case then more than half americans would be in jail during bush's tenure and Obama's. Hell, I would be in jail for the amount I bash obama!
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    Question your children about their teachers, liberals are hell bent on turning the world into a planet of grinning moonbeam saps having sex with trees.

    Liberal teachers have infiltrated all of America's schools, they desperately want the Young Minds "as the twig is bent so grows the tree"
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    where are all the conservative teachers?
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    According to the kid who is empowered because of social media, now what can go wrong here????

    The inmates take over the asylum.. something very wrong here.
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    This Nasty Left Wing Nut Teacher bit off a little more than she could chew, the Kid that kicked her ass is becoming a National Hero, while she is becoming America's "Piece Of Sh!t Of The Year"

    She should be stoned (not with weed but with sidewalk bricks)
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    So if the teacher hadn't been behaving this way, how did he know to have his friend record the incident?

    Her behavior was horrible, you wonder how many classrooms does this sort of thing take place in.
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    For every poor teacher, there are a whole lot more really good ones..

    Do not think that they should be selectively monitored by children, who lack the maturity and judgement, with Iphones... the teacher has some rights as well.

    That is the role of principals, the student should have gone to the principal first.. just going viral on anything is not a very good answer. What has been learned here by the students is to disrupt the class, push the teachers buttons, get her riled up and then go viral with a video.. probably ruin her career.

    This is the type of thing that will have long term unintended consequences, and falsely empowers children...

    Secretly videotaping people is also against the law.. permission is needed.
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    Encourage your children to inform you of their Teachers Indoctronational Left Wing Brainwashing Bullsh!t.

    Don't allow your child to be turned into a Socialist, dear God protect them from these darascutons, tell your children that a Landfill Station is really "a f-cking dump"
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    Darryl - I could be misreading the NC Law you provided in a post on page 1, but in reading that (the one party consent law), arent these kids protected by that?

    Im not arguing for kids posting classroom stuff to youtube, but presumably the kid in the having the conversation would have known his buddy was recording, those the one party consenting to it had been met?? As long as the buddy knew, it doesn't matter one iota if the teacher knew.

    As I said, I am not a legal scholar, so I could easily be reading the law wrong.

    EDIT - As for the idea of teachers bringing their personal political beliefs to the classroom, well I view that as an age appropriate thing. The younger kids should be in an classroom devoid of political opinions and agendas. They are their to learn fundamental concepts. In HS, a much more appropriate venue for debate.
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    I would certainly disagree with that. As a parent I want my children educated not indoctrinated.

    There is a power imbalance between the teacher and student that would preclude the student from having true freedom of expression free from reprisals (ie the teacher controlling grades). This is a situation that is primed for abuse by the teacher.


    I wish in HS kids actually got fundamental concepts.
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    Kids go to school to learn how to read and write, their time shouldn't be wasted having to listen to stinking filthy political sh!t from some whacko dirtbag with a political agenda.
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    Politics, like many subjects other than reading and writing, are worthy of discussion in schools.

    It starts with US History as well as "Current Events" classes or sections of classes.

    But any decent teacher should avoid interjecting personal opinions or, if they offer their own views, should be including opposing views as well. Obviously this was not a good teacher.

    btw, I hope you also have this view when school boards are trying to edit US History, teach religion as biology, etc.

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