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  1. Patters

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    Given the many intellectual faux pas the Tea Party candidates have made, especially Bachmann and Perry, it's no surprise that ignorant group is destroying itself. Huntsman drops out and endorses Romney, who has trouble commanding more than 30% of the Republican primary vote; Bachmann drops out, but doesn't endorse anyone. The reality is that if the Tea Party candidates were as mature as Huntsman and united around one candidate, the vote would likely be much closer. But, instead the Tea Party leadership, a likely reflection of the Tea Party members, are just a bunch of selfish people, who apparently are too egotistical to drop out and unite around one candidate. Realistically, the Republican primary at this point should be between Romney, Paul, and a Tea Party member, but thankfully the Tea Party is busy destroying itself. It's nice to see. Though I'm not a Romney supporter, of course, I'm glad he'll get the nomination.
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    None of the candidates left in the race can call themselves Tea-Party members.

    Gingrich, Santourm and Paul* are career Washington hacks. Perry has been Governor of Texas for a decade and Romney has been running for public office since the early '90's.

    *No matter what Paul "stands for" he has been in Washington for a long time.
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    #87 Jersey

    I felt at the beginning of the tea party as I do now ... it's better as an idea than a party. Same thing for the OWS people ... they have some good ideas that are best adopted by the parties. I don't really see how any 3rd party could ever be viable unless a few billionaires were behind to fund it.

    Also ... never saw how the tea party could make it with the slow dying death of the strict conservatives and the unrealistic platform of the libertarians.
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    I agree.

    The thing about the Tea Party is that they want a small government but a huge military. It seems to me that they want to cut all social safety nets to save money but at the same time all those "savings" will be pumped into the defense budget. I don't get it.
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    You just really don't have the first clue what a primary is, do you? :bricks:
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    What say you Wolfie? Who is going to win the GOP nomination?
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    I think it's pretty clear that Romney is the front runner and will go on to win. In fact, to me that's so obvious at this point that I can't really understand why you even bother to ask the question. :confused:
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    #87 Jersey

    If DC cut social spending we would have chaos in many inner cities. Entire micro economies exist in these inner cities based on social spending. Cutting social spending in turn closes many tiny businesses and leads to boarded up buildings and people leaving. Even the deportation of illegals has had a massive effect in this area - more than many people may realize.

    I am more of a cut wasteful spending and grow the tax base kind of person. Help businesses through tax breaks compete with some of the sweat shops overseas until the gap closes a bit more naturally (which is already happening). So I like the cut the wasteful spending part of the tea party people. I also like the help the homeless part of the OWS people among other things.

    I am for cutting in the military but it has to be done slowly ... perhaps not as much cutting as perhaps just level funding for the next 20 years without inflation factored in. Cannot just cut military people or budgets overnight without hurting the economy through business closings and/or extra people in the workplace who cannot find jobs and go on welfare and government assistance.
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    The guy asked a pretty benign, straitforward question, which you butchered again, with a side order of condescension. He's supposed to just know your opinion regarding your party's field of failure? LOL...

    A lot can happen in two months, especially for a mormon. It's pretty clear you just have no clue about a primary.
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    The "Bigoted" Left Wing will destroy Romney on his religion, they will do exactly what they accuse the Right Wing of doing to The Muslims.

    Jug Ears will remain in office and God only knows what he will do then, he has nothing to lose it will be his second term, Michelle will act up also, I'm going to hide.

    Jesus Help Us
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    Why would the left wing give a crap about Romney's religion? The right wing are the ones bringing up that stuff.
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    Exactly. But this is what posters like Harry have to do in order to project. They create ironic false narratives of what "would" happen.

    Obama, and his supporters, don't need to ever utter the word "Mormon" at all this year to still beat Romney by 3 touchdowns. The Mormon is a shape-shifting fraud, who has serious trouble speaking without looking like a silver-spooned ass-munch.
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    So long as he isn't "clinging" to it. ;)
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    The Tea Party has done a tremendous service to this country, as it's pointed out, and awoken the public to the disastrous spending policies of government. Fiscal issues are now at the forefront of the political discussion, which is critical with our debt at $15 trillion and counting.
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    Oh really? "Anything can happen"? So tell us then, when has a candidate ever won Iowa, won New Hampshire, had this big of a lead in the polls, and then failed to secure the party's nomination?

    Since you know so much about primaries, put up or shut up. Of course, no one in here thinks you're actually capable of doing either one of those things. So we all know you're going to respond to this post with insults and anger, but not with an answer to my question.
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    It's pathetic how the self-proclaimed "only minded, tolerant" left are pretty much the only ones talking about Romney's mormonism as much as they can.
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    You really should open your eyes to reality. The first person to bring up that subject in this thread was Titus. Liberals make sure to bring it up as often as they can. But it's different when liberals do it, right?
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    #87 Jersey


    Mav is just trying to get you angry wolf ... that what was he did as maverick4 and that's what he does now as titus pullo.
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    :rofl: Remember folks, only conservatives bring up Romney's religion! Liberals would never do that! Nope! No they wouldn't! You'll never see a liberal mentioning Romney's faith! :rofl:
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    Leave it to an arrogant conservative to assert how "things have always been, so that's why I'm right." LOL.

    Telling me to shut up will guarantee that I don't, just on general principle. Especially a whiner like you.

    You can run your mouth as vehemently as you like. But in the end, you're still talking about a Mormon who the crazy evangelicals will not flock to. You're also still talking about a candidate who can't stop putting his silver foot in his blabbering mouth. And you're still talking about a primary race that has actually had Michelle Bachmann and Herm Cain in the lead at one point or another.

    Except for the 100% of the time that I do. Most satisfyingly, at your goofy expense.

    Project much?

    I answered it by showing how irrelevant your latest smarmy assertion is. And if you weren't so dyed-in-the-wool conservative, you'd realize that things are never locked in just because "that's the way it's always been."

    Anyway, now that you're fanned your feathers like a dumb pea**** again, I guess that kinda leaves you rooting for the shape-shifter now, doesn't it? This should be fun.

    Regardless, all the man asked was who you thought was gonna win. But instead of just saying "Romney," you had to be yourself about it, per usual.
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    I would have liked to have seen Chris Christie run.

    He may not be perfect, but I have a feeling he would have buried
    Romney and gave Obama a run for his money.

    Will anyone from the OWS crew ever run for office?
    Maybe they are waiting for the perfect fortune cookie to get
    their next plan of attack.
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    Actually, genius, that was Harry first. You can read, correct?

    That's not exactly what I said. I'll mention it all day, mainly because I love exposing the hypocrisy of the "WWJD" party. But the reason your cackling makes you look foolish again in relation to what Harry asserted is that, 1) I'm not campaigning for Obama, 2) I'm not exactly "liberal." I just hate modern conservatives. I know the world is totally black-or-white to you deep thinkers and you need to categorize everyone, but there's a whole world of gray out there.

    Read slower next time.
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    Speaking of Christie, have you seen him on TV lately? He's fatter than ever. I mean seriously large.
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    Shooting for a spot on the Jest coaching staff?
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    By the way, on the subject of "anything can happen," this year and future years (unless we somehow fix it,) you can unleash a torrent of "free speech" in the form of unlimited money, if you're rich enough and care enough.

    So it's possible that "it's all over" can't be as well gauged now compared with other years.
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    You said "A lot can happen in two months, especially for a mormon. It's pretty clear you just have no clue about a primary." So since you know far more about primaries than the rest of us, please give us an example of what you claim can happen so easily here.
    Yes, I knew you wouldn't shut up. Just like I knew you wouldn't put up because you have absolutely no facts on your side.
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    Actually, genius, you mentioned it in post #9 which was made before Harry Boy said anything. You can read, correct?

    :rofl: Good Lord, don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself? :rofl: You certainly do know how to play the forum dunce quite well! :rofl:

    Read slower next time, genius. Now be a man and admit you were wrong and that I was right when I said "The first person to bring up that subject in this thread was Titus." Put up or shut up Titus. :rocker: :rocker:

    It's hilarious how much you make yourself look like an idiot with your arrogant condescension and insults, only to lodge your foot so deep in your own mouth yet again. But you being wrong about things is something we're all quite used to.
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    lol...

    Context, and try to breathe through your nose. Harry's the one who mentioned Mormonism as an derogatory issue that the left would use. I merely acknowledged that Romney is "a Mormon" and that he does not have the support of his own party's base because of it. Harry's is a claim. Mine is a fact.

    I hardly care that the man is a Mormon. I'm merely acknowledging that he is one, not using it to "destroy" him, as Harry so over dramatically put it.

    In destroying him, the left never needs to touch THE MORMON'S religion. He's a painfully flawed candidate, regardless of his curious faith. That's the point. Get it yet?

    Way to avoid the rest of my post by truncating it to exclude the parts that you can't spin.

    "He's going to win, and the question doesn't even need to be asked." LOL...

    As for "being wrong" about something, that's not really a pronouncement that someone like you should be making toward anyone. You're laughably wrong in just about every post you spew.
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    Yup. Just as I thought. You're too gutless to admit that you made a simple mistake, despite how blindingly obvious it is for all the forum to see. Maybe someday you'll grow up and understand that you make a far greater fool of yourself by refusing to admit you made a simple mistake than you would by simply saying "hey I messed up, my bad."

    "A lot can happen in two months, especially for a mormon." - Titus Pullo, post 9 (before Harry Boy entered the thread)

    "The first person to bring up (Romney's religion) in this thread was Titus." - Wolfpack, post 17

    "Actually, genius, that was Harry first. You can read, correct?" - Titus Pullo, post 22


    Please, Titus, continue to deny that which everyone in here can plainly see. Please continue to make a complete, total jackass of yourself. :rofl: :rofl:
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    Hey Titus, where'd you go buddy? :rofl:

    Looks like I finally accomplished what no one else could: I got him to shut up! :rocker: :rocker:

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