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  1. reflexblue

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    How Israel Destroyed Syria's Al Kibar Nuclear Reactor
    Great piece on how the Isrealies destroyed a nuclear reactor facility built for producing Plutonium in Syria, it reads like a Tom Clancy, or Frederick Forsyth novel. Syria is working with N.Korea and Iran. The story revolves around information from an Iranian general seeking asylum, the killing of one of the most wanted terrorist master minds using a headrest filled with explosives. The assasination of a top Syrian general using a Yacht with snipers for a drive by or sail by. This is a serious MUST READ.

    The Story of 'Operation Orchard': How Israel Destroyed Syria's Al Kibar Nuclear Reactor - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

    By Erich Follath and Holger Stark

    In September 2007, Israeli fighter jets destroyed a mysterious complex in the Syrian desert. The incident could have led to war, but it was hushed up by all sides. Was it a nuclear plant and who gave the orders for the strike?

    The mighty Euphrates river is the subject of the prophecies in the Bible's Book of Revelation, where it is written that the river will be the scene of the battle of Armageddon: "The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East."
    All the rumors have long since muddied the waters as to what people may or may not have seen. But even the supposedly advanced Western world, with its state-of-the-art surveillance technology and interconnectedness through the mass media, has little more solid information than the people in this Syrian desert town. What happened in the night of Sept. 6, 2007 in the desert, 130 kilometers (81 miles) from the Iraqi border, 30 kilometers from Deir el-Zor, is one of the great mysteries of our times......
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    Good find Flex ... fascinating read ... got to part 4 but it's time to bring my kid to school and get some work done ... I will finish later on.
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    Isn't though, its like a Hollywood script. The assassination's are right out of the series by Robert Ludlum i.e The Borne Identity.
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    I'll have to read this later sounds fascinating. I thought it was a B2 of ours that destroyed the complex.
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    In the details this is indeed fascinating... especially in the case of the general, who could have been killed by any of a number of enemies. The only question is whether the idea that Mossad did it is cover for Assad doing it, or vice versa. But the final paragraph or two of the article is the most telling, in terms of the forest vs. the trees: You can have many opinions about Israeli strikes against Syrian nuke facilities, about assassinations against known terrorists, etc. These are not cut-and-dried white-hat/black-hat things. And yes, whatever your politics, the Israelis seem to be very good at what they do.

    But the big story is in those last paragraphs: time is on Iran's side, and frankly I'm not sure a feel-good [sic] military (or militaristic) response is or ever was of value in this instance. That leaves diplomacy (with people who don't like us or the Israelis very much,) or a lot of hand-wringing followed by a nuclear Iran.

    By the way, of the likely outcomes:

    - If the U.S. somehow finagles a non-nuclear Iran, it will be considered appeasement, and the e-mails and posts are already half-written about how we "gave away the farm." (Instant expertise on the specific farm we gave away and how we gave it away will be inserted upon news of the actual agreement, unlikely though such an agreement many be);

    - If the U.S. does not somehow finagle a non-nuclear Iran, it will be billed as a failure of diplomacy and of course, of the present regime;

    - If the U.S. (or Israel) successfully pursues a military option -- and again, as pointed out by that article, it would be an unbelievably unwieldy enterprise -- it will be lambasted as a clear violation of international law (which it would be,) and a continuation of a "might-makes-right" mentality;

    - If the U.S. (or Israel) unsuccessfully pursues a military option -- the more likely outcome in this case -- it will be fuel for those who oppose the U.S. in the region. It will establish us as a "paper tiger".

    This sort of thing doesn't just worry us. It worries the rest of the nuclear nations as well, every time there is a new nuclear power on the block... and that's way too often nowadays.

    PFnV
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    Solve the Iran problem?

    Get off oil.

    Everything else is superfluous dancing.

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