Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by IcyPatriot, Feb 25, 2012.
PETA | Killing Animals | Animal Rights Campaign | The Daily Caller
Makes me glad the dog we adopted last fall got picked up by the town pound in Texas City and pulled by a rescue group and fostered.
Sad story, even if the details aren't completely accurate (not saying they aren't)
I like a burger and a steak as well as anyone, but I support some of the
great organizations out there (not Peta) that rescue dogs and cats.
We got a dog 9 years ago from Save a Dog in Sudbury.
Save A Dog, Inc. - an all-volunteer dog rescue organization located in Massachusetts
They rescue dogs from kill shelters out of state.
The Chocolate Lab Mix we got is the best dog I have ever owned.
They rescued him from a kill shelter in Ohio.
I have spent a arm and a leg on medical bills the last few years, but
he is worth every penny.
He actually got his picture in the Patriot ledger's weekend addition this
I have always had rescue animals and am a supporter of "Best Friends Animal Shelter in Utah", a no kill shelter.
Not a huge fan of PETA ... as they tend to be comprised of Hollywood Wife Swappers.
But the Daily Caller, anytime you quote a Tucker Carlson (bow tie boy) publication it has to be suspect.. interestingly they do not caption the report, instead they choose to caption petakills.com or other such nonsense.
Peta believes in euthanasia, but these numbers seem high. Is this one of those if it sounds too good to be true..
I'm not crazy about PETA's methods sometimes, but I'd take whatever Richard Berman says with a large grain of salt.
Center for Consumer Freedom or Deception? You Decide.
peta is one of those things everyone piles on, and deservedly so, they're full of some real grade A pieces of ****
When I lived in the Norfolk area, there were frequently local reports of PETA doing some strange things. The one I remember most saliently was how some employees were killing all these animals and then dumping them across the line in North Carolina.
EDIT - PETA workers who dumped animals deny wrongdoing | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
Even without that stuff, these people are just out there. They're about as effective an advocate for their position as Phelps is for Christianity.
Hey, anyone who succeeds at getting hot women to pose nude or nearly so can't be all bad.
But yeah, I'd feel a lot better about PETA if they allowed an exemption for humanely killed cows, chickens and pigs.
This is old news. I've posted about this before. They kill animals all the time.
Maybe the Telegraph from a couple of years ago works for you both?
Peta under fire over claim that it kills most animals left at its US headquarters - Telegraph
It's ok for them to kill animals, but heaven forbid you use a live worm for bait when you go fishing. Heck, screw the worms. You're not even supposed to eat fish to begin with.
Never eat fish? I'm sure 12 year olds across the country feel the same, but let's get real PETA.
Fishing: Aquatic Agony | PETA.org
All members of PETA should be Spayed & Nuetered, they will then die out.
Some more PETA numbers ...
VDACS Online Animal Reporting
Of 1877 animals 1675 were murdered.
PETA does not walk the talk.
Coming from a hunter I have never cared for these wackos.
I've known many of their members, and if you're concerned about walking the walk, they do. It's very simple: the people at PETA believe strongly in what they believe in, and to a person, they greatly influence their own personal lives to comport with that belief.
Nothing's as basic to life than what you eat, and I don't find them say "well okay, today I'll eat a burger." They go out of their way to eat crappy food because they're so concerned about animals, they go out of their way to buy crappy clothes and shoes, they go out of their way to buy products that don't work as well, and then they brainwash themselves into believing the food tastes good, the clothes are just as good, etc.
They're wrong about the quality of life change -- they do lose something -- but you can't very well say that they're all a bunch of big fat hypocrites.
Evidently, that also includes a belief that it's better to have a kill shelter than no shelter, and it's also not possible (for them) to run a no-kill shelter. They're also much more conscious than the general public that many "no-kill" shelters just fill up, and then move animals that aren't being adopted to kill shelters -- which can very easily become sources for lab animals, etc., something that they believe results in unnecessary suffering that the euthanasia policy avoids.
All of that is way more complex than the bumper-sticker level, and were I giving them advice on the optics, I would long ago have said "don't have a shelter then."
They tend to take a somewhat self-defeating attitude toward such things: If it looks effed-up to the average dumbazz, just do it and explain it -- dumbazzes need educating, and some policies give you the opportunity to educate.
I disagree, in terms of optics. This thread is exhibit 1... but PETA seems to think that in the long haul, more people will follow them through the logic and realize that spaying/neutering is the only way to prevent such things, along with better consciousness about treatment of one's "companion animals" (not "pets,") etc.
However, it's worth noting that the counterintuitive, as in this case, can actually also be consistent.
In so noting, however, I am also aware that one can make an impassioned defense of all sorts of aberrant behavior through some convoluted argument, and that the perfectly consistent PETA position can easily be confused for such sleight-of-hand.
That's why I'd tell them to relax and go with the optics on this one, and not run a shelter.
I think to become a working member of PETA you have to be nuts.
That being said, I adopted my dog from a rescue group in TN, and would never buy a dog from a breeder.
Here Here Nunchucks....
Rescue dogs are where its at...IMHO.
I have not come across a more loyal creature in my life than the two rescue dogs in my life (parents rescued a Beagle/Basset from a gas shelter in OH and my wife and I rescued a Poodle/Jack Russell (they think) from TX).
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