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    Sanchez is likely to be a "June 1 cut" with the cap costs spread over 2 years. Alternatively, they can convert most of his salary to a bonus and try to peddle him with $3M or $4M salary.
    In this case, there would be no cap effect. There is no cap hell, no matter how much we wish it; just an awful team.

    Mark Sanchez' Contract and Future Possibilities
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    Sure, trade Mallett for a 2014 2nd and give a 6th for Sanchez, after the jets pay most of his 2013 salary as a bonus). :)

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    I am confused by this? Why would this mean no cap hell? They are already in the cap hell? Just because they can rid themselves of Sanchez without adding to their cap does not mean they are not in hell. With Sanchez on the team they are paying for a crappy QB, without him they are paying for a crappy QB who no longer takes a roster spot.
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    We should sign him. That way, if Brady does go down for the season, we can be assured of the first pick in the draft.
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    I'd argue that the state that they're in now is cap hell. They have a crappy team, and they know it, but they can't improve in FA because of cap constraints. Meanwhile, they just traded their best player because they can't afford to pay him what he wants.

    If that's not cap hell, I dunno what is.
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    How do you figure that when his 2013 salary is guaranteed?

    The fact that you state Sanchez should be a 6/1 cut contradicts "the no cap hell" statement.

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    It's kind of dissapointing in a way. We all expected the Jets 1-15/2-14 trainwreck to be commanded by the Sanchize. It'll still be hilarious, but not as much so with a mediocre rookie QB. Hopefully Holmes/Rex have some good soundbytes left in them.
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    Cutting Sanchez adds $5M to the cap. This can be deferred. If Snachez is traded at say a $3M salary, the cap cost is minimal.

    2013 free agency is essentially over. The jets can have absorbed the cost of the Sachez debacle this year and move on. Worst case is that they have a minimal amount of 2014 dead money.

    You guys keep loosely talking about cap hell, as you used to when Manning was with the colts.

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    I guess that patriots are in cap hell. We couldn't afford to pay Welker $7M a year.

    How exactly are the jets in cap hell because they refuse to pay Revis SIXTEEN million a year?

    Some teams are not willing to pay a non-quarterback that kind of money. BTW, the patriots are one of those teams.

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    I almost wonder whether Sanchez would bother to sign with another team. The money he'd make would be a pittance compared to what he's already raked in, and he doesn't give me the impression of a guy who really loves the game. I suppose he might want to prove that his failures were really the team's fault?
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    You may be right. He's getting $8.25M. He might as well not sign any restructure which would allow him to be traded. After all, he would end up playing for zero additional compensation.

    HOWEVER, if Sanchez is a free agent, there may be a fit somewhere in the league that would want him for a 1-year show-me contract.

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    Um, I am not sure, but I read both articles linked here, including the one you linked, and they both seem to completely disagree with what you are saying here. So either I am misunderstanding what they say or you are.
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    I guess we disagree on interpretation. We'll say. I will be clear for the "record". Sanchez will not be on the 53 man roster to start the season for the jets.

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    From the Jet's cap page. They cut him after June 1 they take a 12.85 million hit this year and a $4.8 million next year

    B. Designate Sanchez a June 1 cut. This doesn’t help you with cap room until June 1st but it keeps you from losing cap room by the outright release of the player. If you designate Sanchez a June 1 cut you will retain his $12.85 million cap charge until June 1st rather than taking on the $17.15 million charge. Once June 1 hits his cap charge will reduce to $12.353 million and you will take the $4.8 million balance as a charge in 2014.
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    Are you saying that the jets are in 2014 cap hell because of $4.8M of dead money on a top contract?

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    Either way I am glad it is the Jets and not us.
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    I never said they were in cap hell.

    All I am saying is that they would pay $12.85 million for 2013 and $4.8 million for 2014 for a player that is not playing for them.
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    Not at all. With all their cuts this year of crummy contracts and Sanchez and Holmes next, the Jests will have $40-50 million in cap room. Tons of space.
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    First off, Snachez has to agree to a paycut and it has to be to a place Sanchez wants to go. IE: If Chicago came calling, I would think Sanchez would say no to the deal because he doesnt like the cold. Secondly, who is going to trade for Sanchez after what just happened? If a team really wants him, they should just wait because the line to sign Sanchez after he is cut is going to be a short one.
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    I know right its not like you can do too much worse in the NFL with nonguaranteed contracts. The maximum durration of cap hell in the NFL is two years or thereabouts. Thats about how long the Jets have no flexability for.

    Next year they MIGHT be able to sign some decent free agents, but they will stilll not have roster flexability. Making decisions on roster spots holding onto players because they can't be cut THIS year, or that they have to spread the cap hit out over two years just to field a 53 man roster comprised mostly of UDFAS and vet min guys. Great job Tannenbaum!!:rocker:
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    WTF are you talking about? As much as I hate the Jets, I can't deny they've made a lot of the right moves and will be out of "cap hell" in 2014 with PLENTY of $$$ to sign FAs. And not just cheap guys at that. JEtscap.com shows by cutting Sanchez and Holmes at the end of this year it will net them approx. $45 million UNDER the cap, if the cap remains flat. I have no idea on where you're basing your opinion.
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