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  1. Patters

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    These people are nuts and that a semi-legit site like Newsmax gives this guy space is unbelievable. Perhaps we have to be prepared for the rise of the American Nazi Party, given the fascistic and fiendishness of the right. We must be vigilant when this kind of crap makes it into their new sites. Clearly there are voices on the right who are prepared to subvert our democracy and Constitution.

    Obama Risks a Domestic Military ‘Intervention’

    There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the “Obama problem.” Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.

    America isn’t the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn’t mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it....

    Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.
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    Far out. Really far out. Are you eating too much fruit cake? Because it sounds like you're turning into one.
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    This goof does not represent the "right" of American politics. This guy is a flake and Newsmax is officially a joke for publishing this dork's crap.
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    Actually, Newsmax is owned by the same guy who did the witchhunt against Clinton, Scaife, and is often cited by foxnews.com. It's an extremist site, but notice how the only rightie to respond so far doesn't attack the author of the article (who seems to be advocating a military takeover), he attacks the messenger. A lot of these righties (not all, or even most) are unAmerican and always have been.
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    Never heard of the guy, turns out he worked for Presidents Carter and Johnson. According to his bio.
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    Must have been a fascist mole. Glad to see you didn't defend his point of view ;)
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    Find these comments and the accompanying rhetoric interesting, the right supposedly loves the Constitution... but also has been advocating both overtly and subtly for some type of violent overthrow of the Government...

    Cannot believe that folks would be so shortsighted, what do they think the outcome will be... life as we know it will no longer exist.
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    Well as I pointed out the fellow was a dem....


    I will also point out many on the left felt Bush wouldn't leave office.
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    Just because you and NEWSMAX say he was a dem, does not mean he was.. he has been writing for NEWSMAX since 2001... hardly a dem sanctuary..

    NewsMax.com: John L. Perry - Archives

    If you are interested here is the applicable US Code...

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    Well the fact her served in the Carter and Johnson administrations identifies him as a dem, see his bio at newsmax.
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    Bio at NEWSMAX..::rofl::rofl:

    Robert Gates works in the Obama Administration, does that make him a Dem??..

    Is Dick Morris, because he worked for Clinton still a Democrat???

    There is little info on this guy, except for about 150 articles that he wrote for NEWSMAX since '01... he is a republican, despite what they say, he may have worked for Johnson and Carter.. that is 30 years ago.... you cannot be anywhere near that dumb or that much of a Lemming that you believe any of this crap are you??

    If you are, feel sorry for you... didn't you argue last week that O'Reilly was a Dem.. even if he was a dem, advocating the overthrow of the gov't by the military is a serious offense.
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    The article is dumb.............. This thread is dumber..........

    I guess this is what's know as a twofer. :rolleyes:
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    Getting away from the Rhetoric.. is is ok for a columnist to advocate for the violent overthrow of the US gov't by the Military???? And then to come out and say a Dem did it.. none of it makes any sense, and seems to violate the law...
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    Nope, but if there is one thing that this world is not short on, it's crazy people with goofy theory's (on the left and right).

    Just to add balance to this thread and the planet, HERE is a that lefty whacko Gore Vidal coming to that SAME place with an end around from the left.

    So there you go. Two seperate crazy people, one lib, one con, both saying the same thing. Hunker down for the coming military coup. :rolleyes:
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    The basic difference is that Vidal does not call for violent overthrow of the government by the military.. he fears it. If you want the whole article, rather than the condensed version may want to read this...

    Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’ - Times Online

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    Not the point chief. I got the tone and tenor of his argument and see the difference between the two. My point is his theory and reasoning is every bit as whacko.

    So yeah, he's just darkly predicating that one will occur. Doesn't matter, it's just as friggen ludicrous to suggest. Our military has no interest in these politics, and the mere suggestion that they do demeans their honor. Typical lefty crap that has NO BASIC understanding of our military and what they stand for and Value.

    There will be a coup......... in 2012. The people will rise up and choose to remove the guy currently serving, or choose to keep him there for another 4 years. I bet it will be quite peaceful and not involve the military at all. At least, if history can be a judge. This other stuff........... no matter who is spouting it, is all CRAP.
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    It is not about understanding the military, it is about violation of the law and how it is espoused by right wing publications that operate under the guise of the first amendment... their situational view of the constitution and the world works is appalling.

    Interesting how you phrase this left crap, when it comes from one the major crappers of right wing venom.. NEWSMAX... btw and election is not a coup.
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    The far left wing liberal "obama worshipers" just can't bring themselves to believe or even imagine that there are millions of people in America who "don't want obama"

    America is slowly heading towards DICTATORSHIP, this young man (obama) who desperately wants to be America's first Dictator has his little band of loyal followers and idolizers (the pelosi gang) together in their Rush To Rule America they are overlooking "the people" the American people dread the thought of America becoming another Third World Dictatorship, the people will rise and fight.

    In all the lands with dictators Military Coup's are a Fact of Life.
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    That's ridiculous. It sounds like the people who constantly said Bush was going to impose Martial Law, and make himself president for a 3rd term, or for life. It's crazy crap from the extreme.
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    There should be no apostrophe for a possessive pronoun.

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    He's not black. You don't have to be condescending and petty THIS time.
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    NEWSMAX removed the article...
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    I guess that makes them legitimate, then?:D

    They published it already. You can't unring that bell. How many nazi white supremacist groups made posters out of that article already? It's like the judge telling a jury, "You are to disregard that testimony"
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    In every election in America, there are tens of millions who "don't want" the winning candidate. There are more who do want him. This is also the case for Obama.

    Stop being little *****es and cope.

    The closest thing America's ever seen to a dictatorship was the security/espionage complex set up under George II. Your complaint is that Obama is doing what he was elected to do.

    Evidently you guys have now stopped alternately ringing the "nothing changed" bell, and are back to "everything changed!"

    Frankly, it's pretty much business as usual in the big picture, as you would expect with a pragmatic moderate.

    The problem isn't that Obama's the second coming of Karl Marx. The problem is that you guys have been kow-towwed to for 30 years, even in the breaches, and you believe that swearing a de facto oath of fealty to the upper classes and corporations is an unwritten indispensible condition for being president.

    Anybody who shows the slightest consistency with the JudeoChristian tradition of taking care of the weakest of a society, is immediately designated a marxist dictator. Oh and meanwhile, that tradition has been morphed into an anti-gay hate orgy. Just a side-road I suppose... we are urged to follow the laws of an ancient theocracy, but only as they regard sexual taboos. The bible is socialist, by the current standards of the right... and so must not be adhered to except as regards to its anti-gay stance.

    Nobody's usurping any power. This is just the continuing infantile outburst of an infuriated minority. So all the bleating, weeping, and gnashing of teeth amounts to a temper tantrum by a party that has eked out one popular victory in a presidential victory in the last five elections, and that one of a sitting wartime president (who had been appointed by his brother in the first place.)

    You're staying visible through incoherent ranting; I think there's going to be a backlash. Many more of your 08 voters will have died of old age, and I doubt you're going to win the hearts and minds of the young with the hate and bile campaign.

    RIP, GOP


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    PFnV....you have to admit, there are probably millions like myself who voted for Obama and are now wondering (or have decided) if they regret their vote. I'm positive there are, otherwise poll numbers would not have declined so much.

    I'm not criticizing you or anyone else, but all of us should be more honest and stop "backing our guy" to the bitter end just because he's "our guy". That's just group-think.

    I've stated before that the vast majority of those who voted for Obama didn't vote for mass change in American society. We voted for transparency, honesty and the non-partisanship Obama promised. THAT was the "Change" Obama promised Americans. He never said he'd try to move the country to the left and most Americans don't want that either.
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    I come from the POV (like many others) who didn't vote for Obama, but liked him enough to let him have a shot. I don't like what I've seen so far and nervously await the results of those policies. We won't know for a while what will become of our society. No one does.

    The economy is still in the sh!tter, but at least we not totally down the drain. We may be in the end but no one knows for sure. My problem is that there is an element in our society that has been taking a disruptive course of action since Obama was elected. Even before his innauguration, the hard right began referring to the recession as the "Obama Recession". It was as if nothing happened before Jan 21, 2009. I'm discouraged by that political sector and their unwillingness to give any time, room or latitude to Obama. I've never seen anything like it. I voted for Reagan in 1980, and the mood around the country was very positive in a low time. Even liberals were interested in seeing what this guy could do (at least the ones I knew).

    This man's the president. He has done nothing that any other president would have done in his circumstances. He hasn't committed treason (yet) and he seems to be able to think on his feet, adjust to changes, do more than one thing at a time, speak clearly, and most importantly, change his mind when facts around him change. Just because I believe that it was a mistake to bail out GM and the banks again doesn't mean I am right. Politics are a purely retrospective thing.

    Who knows? We might even find out 20 years from now that George Bush was a genius......












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    We go back and forth about this behavior, the truth is these people represent about twenty five percent of the population but act like THEIR seventy five plus percent.

    I'm here to say 75% of the population wants its country back from the noisey dangerous chidren in the room.
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