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    IBD: Ryan’s budget is hardly radical « Hot Air

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    So...a right-wing rag declares that Ryan's plan isn't radical. Knock me over with a feather.
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    Rather than discuss specifics the democrats have turned to the spin machine.

    Actually from the House Budget people.

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    We've discussed specifics plenty. What would you like to discuss? Blowing a hole in the deficit with more tax cuts for the wealthy that would allegedly be offset by rescinding deductions and exemptions that are heretofore unspecified? Or perhaps that the plan will obviate Medicare benefits and replace them with vouchers that increase less than the rate of inflation, forcing seniors to pay 6k more out of pocket per year? Or how about the projection under the Ryan plan that UE will reach 2.8 percent in 2020? Or perhaps we can discuss how Ryan projects non-entitlement/debt servicing spending to constitute 4 percent of GDP by 2050, when in reality it is currently at 12 percent and has never reached 8 percent of GDP? We can always talk about how the plan ostensibly aims to close the deficit, but explodes military spending while inflicting severe cuts on pro-poor and entitlement spending. Or maybe we can talk about how he wants to replace Medicaid and food stamp programs with block grants that would, as I mentioned, represent deep cuts in pro-poor assistance?

    Or maybe we can discuss the entire charade that is Paul Ryan? Everyone seems to forget that not only did he green light veritably every piece of spending in the Bush years, he actually wanted to spend more. You know, the guy who used to be a Keynesian when a Republican was in office but became totally opposed under a Democrat.
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    Why can't Ryan be more like Joe Biden?
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    When "The Left Wing" doesn't like or agree with the news they "Blame The News"

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    No one wants to talk Ryan plan specifics? I thought people wanted to discuss Ryan plan specifics.
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    Ryan's plan is 4T less that the rejected Obama plan, so if spending 4T less that Obama is blowing a hole in the budget how do we describe Obama's spending?
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    Thanks for the info Icy, As I have said Ryan's plan is better than the status quo but only a start, we would be better off if we can get spending back to the 18% of GDP level.

    This would create an environment for economic growth that would generate far more revenue than the path we are on.
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    even talking about 'Ryan's plan' is silly.


    ITS DEAD.


    According to Romney, they are running on ROMNEY's plan. If they win, Paul Ryan will no longer be in congress. If they lose, Paul Ryan will lose his chair on the budget committee.

    no matter what happens, by chosing Paul Ryan as his VP, Mitt Romney killed his plan.


    any discussion of the Ryan Budget should also include Unicorns, the tooth fairy, mermen and mermaids, the loch ness monster, 'Squach, and the lep in da hoood.
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    Of course, we're supposed to take him at face value regarding how he'd keep his plan revenue neutral. When in reality, we both know it's smoke and mirrors.
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    E Bowles and B Clinton disagree with you take it up with them, links in other thread from the past 24 hours.
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    Bowles and Clinton have identified the tax exemptions and deductions Ryan would close to keep his plan revenue neutral? Do tell!

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