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    did they trade Brady, and Moss?

    Is Belichick going to coach the Raiders?

    did Kraft sell the team?

    Is Jerod Mayo holding out?


    what a loser.
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    When talking about the Superbowl why do people always forget that not only did the line play incredibly bad that game, but Brady had an ankle injury and Faulk missed most of the game. These people act as if the Giants were the first team to ever pressure the Pats.
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    Trying hard not to sound like a homer but in a 9 year span when you paticipate in 5 AFCCCs, 4 SBs and go home with the Lombardi in 3 of them, the team is doing something right.

    I'd like to think that their draft record could be a bit better, but I reason that to the fact of picking in the bottom 1/4 of the draft year in/out. Logic would say that your chances of drafting NFL-claliber starters is reduced.
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    It also doesn't help when you have eight picks in the last three rounds of a weak(ish) draft when you already have the most stacked roster in the league. . . .
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    He used yards as the measure of defense in order to denigrate Belichick. Really, is there a need to say more?
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    I really don't have a problem with the article. I don't neccessarily agree, but I can see their point. They say there is no clear cut overrated team. They say the Patriots are overrated not because that people think they are one of the top 4-5 teams in the NFL, but that most preseason polls have them listed as #1. They even write:

    The guy is definitely a Patriots' hater and I still think the Giants showed the rest of the league the blueprint how to stop Brady and company is overrated itself (how do you sell that to other teams? First you get Strahan, Umineyora, and Tuck on your d-line and then you....), but he does raise some valid issues with the Patriots especially on defense.

    I am tired of this the Giants showed other teams how to beat the Patriots since the Giants had the best defensive line and most sacks of any team that season. Few teams could duplicate what the Giants did. Otherwise, I don't have that much of a problem with the article. I do think that teams like the Chargers or Jets are way overrated in many corners and should get the nod over the Pats.
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    To be fair, he did say that the only reason he was picking them was because there was no clear cut over rated team and the Patriots were at the top of most lists. That I don't have a problem with. I would agree though that many of his points after that fell flat.
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    I do not think that NE is overrated. But - to be fair - there is a lot of Pats love going into TC this year. I think that if you polled most "experts" and players and coaches, they'd all put the Pats at or near the top of their list.

    So, while they aren't overrated, they are definately "rated". It would be hard for Harrison to come back and play the "disrespect/no one thought we could do it" card
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    Bill Chuang is overated lol

    Its gonna be nice to see him eat some crow later this year:popcorn:

    14-2 this year and a trip back to the SB!;)
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    I find it hard to take in articles where at one point they compliment a team and in another they downgrade them - It should be one way or the other.

    I actually have more respect for people who write articles in one direction whether its a negative one or a positive one than this article who goes hot and cold.

    IMO You are a Patriot lover or a Patriot hater - There is no in between...
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    He's being disingenuous including the 2000 season. There are better stats to rank defense than what the NFL uses (total yards). PPG is a better stat.

    Pats PPG rank since 2000: 17th, 6th, 17th, 1st, 2nd, 17th, 2nd, 4th, 8th. AVG RANK: 8.2

    Whenever the Pats were lower than 6th, they didn't reach the playoffs, with the exception of 2005. To say BB is overrated is to judge him based his "bad" seasons, while ignoring the "good".

    At least he has them making the playoffs beyond the 1st round. Did he say who's going to beat them in the Divisional round?

    His analogy of the '09 Pats with the '06 Dolphins (a team I thought was overrated) was ludicrous.

    The last time the Pats overhauled their secondary was before the 2003 season and the result was consecutive SBCs. That BB has addressed the 2002 and 2008 seasons by correcting this weakness, speaks well of his organizational skills.

    To put it briefly, this blogger is a "dingleberry". :D

    If I had to pick my most "overrated" I would say Philly and Indy.
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    This particularly bothered me:
    Not the Steelers, because they obviously are a premier 3-4 team.

    But the Ravens? Seriously?

    They run a joke of a 3-4. Yeah, their shoot the gap insult of a 3-4 is very good, but in terms of philosophy, the Patriots are a premier 3-4 team.
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    Don't you think you should at least wait until a few games into the season before declaring any team overrated? (I would have said wait until training camp or the preseason, but if we've seen anything the last few years is that you can't judge a team by preseason performance.)
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    The loss of Scott is going to hurt that Ravens 3-4 - Scott was not the best of that bunch but he fit in with their schemes very well.
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    I dont really have a problem with saying the Pats are overrated. They probably are, because the expectations are set so high.
    We actually reached the point a couple of weeks ago where someone posted a criticism of the Patriots saying 'we havent even won a SB in four years'.
    I believe the Patriots are very clearly the best team in the NFL, but if the standard is anything less than winning the SB is failure, then they probably are overrated, because it isnt that easy. (And by the way, I do think anything less than winning the SB is failure)
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    In order for someone to honestly claim that the Patriots are overrated, they must come up with a legitimate argument against the following sentence: The Patriots are the best team in the NFL and they are the favorites to win the Super Bowl.
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    Is there a more dangerous team? Time will tell.

    Each team we play will feature opposing defensive coordinators tossing and turning through many a sleepless night.
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    The Ravens have been a 4-3 team in all but name for some time.
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