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"The old Moss is back, I disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kremer, NBC

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Moss better than ever?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    What do you think?
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Well he is certainly putting up better stats than ever. He is one TD away from being tied for his career high and its only been 10 games. With Brady has his QB and Brady having Moss as his receiver, they both look better than they ever have.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I think he was better earlier in his career in terms of physical ability, but he had lesser quarterbacks to work with.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Going to bust his career high for TD's.

    Running crossing routes.

    Going up for one-handed catches in traffic.

    Blocking. Sometimes twice on the same play.

    Smiling.

    Saying all the right things.

    There's a strong case to be made for this being his finest season ever.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    The younger Moss had unmatched skills and speed. The mature Moss has knowledge, unmatched skills and speed. His skills and speed may not be exactly what they were when he was in his first few years of NFL play, but he now has Brady. Brady and knowledge make Moss a better player playing at the highest level of his career.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    i think the only folks who can answer this question are those who played against him at the Vikings. while it's hard to imagine that his pass catching abilities were better before and while he seems to have an intuitive sense of how to get open that's almost scary, "people say" that he's lost a step in the open field. only someone who tried to cover him before and is trying to cover him now could answer that question.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    He's a more complete WR because he's running cross routes and has been a more focused route runner. That being said, Moss 5-6 years ago was even more of a physical freak than he is today.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I think Randy himself forgot how good Randy was back when he was a cog on a team that knew how to use him. As an athlete, I'm sure he's appreciative of the circumstance he's found himself in, and is making every attempt to train himself both on and of the field to get back one ounce of how it felt to be the most feared WR in the league. That, I believe is what we are seeing at this point.

    I pray that Randy finishes his career with Brady as his QB, because they deserve each other, and it can only get better from here. As much as Tom believed in Branch, I think Moss may be the one that can take this team to a level never matched in sports history, because you can see a kinship developing with these two already.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Belichick says he is the most football-smart WR he has ever been around.
    I doubt that was true in his early days.
    No doubt, if you are judging raw physical tools, he probably has digressed a bit, but if you include how much more intellgent he has become, he may in fact be beter than ever. (And by the way I think he continues to get smarter playing with Brady)
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I think there is a common misconception. Tom Brady doesn't make Randy Moss better - he makes him LOOK better. ie, Randy Moss is Randy Moss. he runs the same speed, same routes, has the same hands, etc, no matter who is throwing it to him. it's just that Brady puts the ball in the right spot so often, so it LOOKS like Moss is somehow better.

    he is what he is, he just looks better b/c of his teamates

    and fwiw, he is awesome.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Watched him out here in Minn for many seasons. I think he was even better at the spectacular highlight play in his early years, but his maturity and route-running seem much improved in NE. Some things haven't changed though - his seemingly effortless speed, his ridiculously good hands, and that uncanny knack of getting his feet in-bounds when it seems impossible to do so.

    I answered No to the poll because this isn't the old Moss, but he's found different ways to still be the best in the NFL.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I truly feel lucky every Sunday or Monday when i get to watch this guy go to work! I think he is better, you can never discount experience and this guy has been there, he knows what it's like to be on top, and also knows how @#@#y rock bottom is!

    Like Brady said today, this is really only the tenth game these guys have had together. The sky really is the limit here, and hope someway that the pats front office and Randy can agree to continue this partnership.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I have a case of the hots for Andrea Kramer.

    (Do not show post to wife)
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    :ditto:

    10 #%$@%$
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    She's okay....but no Hazel Mae:D
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    He's better at everything now except he's not quite as good physicially. I think he could have scored 30 tds in any given year if he had an above average qb. This is really the first time he's had that, and Brady is in fact more than that (a great qb).
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Do you have a thing for buggy eyes? :eek:

    :eek: This could be renamed the Kramer emoticon.
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    I'm glad I'm not a telepath. I really don't want to know what was running through Andrea's mind during that interview. :eek:
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    lol...you don't need to be a telepath....

    Take a look at CHFF's characterization of it.....:rofl:
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    Re: "The old Moss is back, i disagree, you seem better than ever" - Andrea Kramer, NB

    Oh, I have the basic gist of it, but to actually consider the lascivious thoughts that might be running through her mind. . . . :eek:
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