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  1. BradyManny

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    I was thinking about the Pats 01 season the other day. I was a senior in HS at the time, and growing up locally, the school was abuzz with Pats and Brady fever that winter. (Ironically, I'd been a Bledsoe homer and took some time to convert to Brady, LOL :D) It was an excitign time, and it was one of - if not the - most amazing seasons I've ever participated in as a fan of sports.

    Anyway, going into the AFCCG v the Steelers, most of us were quietly confident that the Patriots could knock off the Rams if it came to that. But at some point, some dissenting voice brought up the idea that maybe they couldn't, that maybe the Rams couldn't be beat anyway. I can vividly remember saying in response to that something to the effect of "I don't care anyway, I just want them to win [the AFCCG] so I can watch them play one more week." The point was, that 01 season was a fun, carefree ride. Each week was guaranteed excitement, and seeing ourselves as overachieving underdogs, you felt like there was nothing to lose. More than anything, I simply wanted them to beat the Steelers for the sake of extending their season so that I could enjoy said season for one more week.

    Contrast that to this season. Super Bowl Sunday, I called up a couple of these buddies from high school in the hours before the game. During the conversations with one of them, I said something to the effect of "I just want to win and get it over with." It wasn't the first time in the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl I'd uttered such a sentiment, but it struck me at the time as I was talking with someone who I'd enjoyed the 01 season with how different it was rooting for this team last year. I just wanted the season to end, the pursuit of perfection had become such a burden.

    Don't get me wrong, last season, for 3+ hours every week, we were privileged to the best season of football any fan could ask for. But in between game days, and particularly at the end of the season, it was not a fun carefree ride by any stretch. It felt more like a laborious and taxing perfunctory ride to inevitable victory that would bring contentment and relief rather than euphoria. Ironically, we never got that, and I wish I had just ignored all the spygate BS, all the perfect season crap, all the other distractions, and spent more time enjoying the season for what it was - one of the best played regular seasons in the history of sports.

    Bottom line, I'm vowing to not let the BS in the media or anything else re: this team get to me next year. I'm just going to enjoy the games, and block out all the other noise. I encourage others to follow, b/c it's not worth it otherwise.
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    Good thread.
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    Ya, good post. I see your point.. It's like that as a Colts fan every now and then as well.. But most of the time you guys have most of the spotlight so it's not as bad, we still get to fight as "under dogs" while we are yet one of the best in the league.
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    We needed to win the SB. Then we'd have done everything we could ever hope for and I could sit back and enjoy. As it stands, we won 3 SB in Brady's first 5 years and have yet to win another - while that is still GREAT, we really need to win one more before Brady retires so the pressure is still on for me.
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    Actually, the Pats just got a lot more publicity last year because of the perfect regular season. Had the Pats lost a couple of times, the conversation would again be on the Colts. In 2006 and 2007, football conversation on ESPN was dominated by the Colts.
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    I guess Im just different because none of that crap bothered me at all.
    To me the season is about 3-3 1/2 each Sunday, for 16 games, and each additional playoff game. What happens between the lines on the field is 95% of all that matters, with the other 5% being what I find to be excellent entertainment value in post game press conferences and recap shows, as well as all the media comments, which I simply gauge as 'lets see how far off the 'experts' are and how many moronic things they can say'.

    2007 was the same as 2001 to me, with the exception of being a better ride (5 games worth of better at 16-0 vs 11-5) and the ultimate ending.

    I was absolustely shocked by the SB, but I never felt it was a birthright, and winning would be relief, or losing any different than any other year.
    Quite frankly, I took the AFCC game loss the year before harder, because there was nothing to grab onto. We lost to the Colts, we blew a lead, they won the SB, we were not the dominant team in the reg season, in fact didnt even earn a bye. This year there was a lot more to grab onto. The best reg season ever, a Patriot team that for the next season, as of 2/10 looked better going forward than any ever had at that juncture, and a real confidence of getting back and avenging the loss.

    I never felt the 'get this over' feeling, or the fact that not finishing the job this year would be any different than not finishing it under any other circumstances.
    The only difference in this season to others (other than destroying the myth in my mind that no team could ever beat a BB team in a SB) was that during the season, the games were different, i.e. it wasn't watching a game with winning or losing at stake, but in many games, just how big were we going to win. In an awful lot of games by the 2nd half, the result was determined, and the watching was kind of going thorugh the motions.
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    I like your idea, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do it. I'm all about redemption in 2008.
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    same here i want to just enjoy it but damn i want that last win!! haha
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    I agree very much with this post. Even looking back at last season, though, I will remember it in good terms. Of course I was upset when the Pats lost (quite devastated really), but considering the season as a whole: it was remarkable.
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    Agree also, but by redemption do you mean another run at a perfect season, or a superbowl?

    I'll take the latter, with the former being nice icing on the cake, but not something I'd attach to the season being a success.

    The pressure towards the end did suck and it's definitely different when you're expected to win vs being an underdog.

    All that said, despite the outcome, it was an amazing season on a lot of levels.
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    Super Bowl. I don't care about anything else.
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    I get your point but I htink you shuold Vow to forget about last year and enjoy it for what it was...the 4th best season in franchise history.

    As someone posted above I enjoy every game. I enjoy the wins more no doubt but I dont have to vow to enjoy the games....on a best season you get 19 games considering their a 365 days in a year 19 is something to be savored.
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    Very well said, BradyManny2344!

    Between some schedule morsels being released today and the draft coming, I am getting excited. I was looking at the opening games and trying to figure out if I will be watching them from a fantasy football perspective (i'm thinking NO on Denver/Oakland)...September needs to get here!
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    As much as I'd like to have this mindset - I just can't.
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    Nice concept, but the first idiot on ESPN saying "Matt Walsh..." will send me over the edge.

    And, yes, the Especial Stupid People Network is predictable that way.

    I say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V30tyaXv6EI

    No matter what the season holds, I want everyone to be miserable.

    I can't be happy otherwise.:D
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    Other than a period of time after the superbowl, looking back I think I enjoyed the heck out of last season, I watched very little ESPN last year, not because of any personal unhappiness with the network (that's something I've mostly picked up since joining here and getting a bit more of the NE perspective, down in FL, any news is good news no matter what the talking heads in suits have to actually say about it), but because I was enjoying the season and games so much, hearing anyone talk about it, spygate, and the rest was taking away from my enjoyment of the success, the winning, the domination in a lot of cases. I had the good fortune to be able to go to the Bills game in Buffalo, with a Buffalo fan, surrounded by Pats fans, and the sheer support of Pats Nation was mind boggling on the road. We whoooped them, I broke my watch (clapping in a blowout and kinetic winder watches don't mix!), but seeing the Pats fans almost outnumber the Bills fans as we ran it up was a wonderful feeling. The SB hurt, but it hurts no matter if you go 12-4 and lose in the playoffs, or 18-1 and lose in the SB - you love them for as good as they are, as hard as they play, etc, but you can't help but be sad if they lose. With that said, a little sadness regarding this team is a drop in the bucket, and I feel like the luckiest sports fan alive whenever I think about what this team has done, and how much I've enjoyed every minute of it, so I think I'll enjoy this year as much as the last, and the ones before that. Funny thing, even though we haven't won since '04, I don't look back on any season in between then and now with unhappiness, so I feel pretty good about the year coming up, even if it doesn't include going 19-0...not that I'm not hoping (and confident that if they do what we know they can do) they do play a perfect season!
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    What about the 2008 season? :confused:
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    I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps the OP is going to Borneo for a year.
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    It's a "it's not about the destination, it's about the journey" approach that I used to take but not any more. I appreciate what the Patriots do each game, but it's the media/fan sourpusses that put a damper on that for me. I'm more angry at myself for allowing myself to get bothered by what idiots at ESPN have to say. As much as I can, I am boycotting them during the season.
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    Whoops...thats what I meant. Perhaps a mod can fix that title for me...I can't edit the original post.
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    thats what I meant when i said i hoped they lost on opening day.

    good thread. :)
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    Wow, a year off caring. I hadn't thought about that approach.:D
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    Wow! you have expressed better than anyone else (and, certainly better than me) how I felt last season from, I would say, the Indy game on. Thank you.

    I also share a similar view on the coming season. I go into the 08/09 season without a lot of clarity on how the team will respond to the SB loss, to the offseason Spygate hype and to the loss of Asante, as well as on the lingering questions about the serious failure of Brady's protection in the SB and the inability of the D to protect a lead at the end of the final game two seasons in a row. So, I'm going into this season asking only that the guys come to play every Sunday and ready to accept that things might not turn out like I want. But, I'll be with them 100%, whether it's for another trip to the SB or something less.
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    i kind of assumed that...the person who pointed out the error probably put his hand up in class to correct the teacher's spelling on the blackboard :) (i'm just having some fun in case anyone gets all offended!)
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    I agree - Indy game on was about the switch. As soon as we beat them, the perfect season increasingly became a burden and distraction.

    As for your uncertainty about how these guys will react - I'm not worried about that. I've seen a lot of posters pose this question so far this offseason, but think of how they reacted last offseason. For all purposes in the 06 season, the AFCCG vs the Colts was the true Super Bowl, and the Pats faced a heartbreaking, crushing defeat. They came back more focused than ever and almost ran the table. I can only imagine the motivation they feel right now. When you're talking about Brady and BB, you can be sure that they'll focus that motivation.
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    Good points all......most important is to ENJOY what we are witnessing during this most amazing run with BB & TB.

    There will never be another like it in sports.

    Right now we are in the middle of a most incredible run. Our team is making history every single day for what will end up being at least an entire decade long if not 15 years or even more. That will be as long as the Celtics dynasty ('56-'69).

    Does anybody have any doubt whatsoever that there will be more Superbowl victories coming up? Is there any doubt Randy Moss will see a ring or two come his way. Tedy Bruschi & Rodney Harrison must walk out as champions - how fitting that will be.

    I vow to enjoy every bit of it and not get wrapped up in the haters and those with negative mean spirited agendas. They come at us with jealousy in search of self promotion as they try to capitalize on the teams glory.

    New England Patriot football......enjoy it to the max, I know I will.
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    Very well put. I have no doubt we'll be competing for the championship every year that Tom Brady is the QB of this team. And we'll probably be favorites every year that Brady AND Moss are on this team.
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    Until say 30 some seconds were left in the Super Bowl, I have never had more fun watching the Pats than last year.

    I don't watch pregame shows, never listen to talk radio except picking and choosing select people who I enjoy from the WEEI/WFAN/ESPN radio interviews posted on their websites (almost 100% players, coaches, or game color analysts), don't read the Boston papers, only read a select few national guys and then only occasionally. The guys doing the talking - callers, hosts, writers know very little of what is really going on so what is the point?

    I try to avoid the flamefest threads on this board and cocentrate on ones that have soemthing to say - can't say I always succeed there but never read the Maroney is made of glass thread for example.

    I have the Sunday Ticket so when the Pats are on the road or playing Monday night, I watch every game which fills me in on the league much better than ESPN ever could.

    Give it a try. It will make the football season more enjoyable.
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    Ya know...I am going to take your advice here.....I tend to get lost in the "hype" all too often.

    I am turning over a new leaf for 2008...."MORE football / LESS hype"

    I will stick to the trusted media people that focus on reporting news and not making it.

    I have the Sunday Ticket & three DVR's - no reason at all to fill those hours with actual FOOTBALL!!!

    Thanks.....
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    Worst idea of all time. Just kidding. But still, after what happened last season, the only thing that will make my body un-numb is a SuperBowl victory.
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