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  1. DaBruinz

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    OK. Please keep your rants to yourself. Focus on the facts of the game please. Give credit where it's due.

    Enjoy..
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    THEY WON


    There. No more saying that this was a "weak win" or that "this team is destined to fail." You would be wrong.
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    frustrating game

    happy to get a win
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    The tackling today was some of the worst I've seen from this team in the BB era, that needs to improve.

    The middle of the field is always wide open when we're in zone.

    The offense yet again has an opportunity to ice the game and shoots themselves in the foot.

    That said a win is a win, learn from it and move on to Indianapolis.
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    Not all wins are created equal. This win shows the team still has the same deficiencies that have been detrimental to them winning another title in the last 6 years. It IS discouraging to see such a porous secondary put us on the edge of our seat once again. If you say you feel just as confident about this team's perspectives after this win as you did two Sundays ago against the Rams, you are probably lying to yourself.
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    It amazes me how many people assume late close games are automatic losses. More often than not this season, the Pats have gotten a clutch play right when they need one.
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    Patriots need to do something about opposing TEs running amok through their zone D.
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    Tackling could have been better but CJ Spiller is quick and shifty, he makes people look stupid.

    Fouts is an azzhat
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    Some people in this thread will also try to pin this one on the offense, so I'll just get ahead of them here and say that when you score 37 points, you should win the game. They had what? 2 drives in which they didn't score? They did their job.
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    Aquib better stay away from guns, pointy objects, women, anything that will get him in trouble.
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    Aqib Talib... We welcome you with open arms.
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    I do because they have a new cornerback coming aboard and last year they improved quite a bit in the second half, once Talibs here they may start to play better as a unit.
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    Very frustrating win. But a WIN. I'll take it.

    Not feeling optimistic for the rest of the year with this D. Patricia? What, there wasn't a coordinator available named Sally? ;)
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    They got a clutch play against the Jets and the Bills, and they let the other team march right down the field and score against the Ravens and Seahawks. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that a team that has been moving the ball on you defense all game long will score when down 6 with 2 minutes to go.
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    I cannot wait for Hernandez to come back. Branch and Edelman are so bad. And Welker is right where he left off the last super bowl....dropping everything. So many drops today my gawd!

    On the bright side, LOLphins got blown out and we're in full control of the division.
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    Offense PPG:

    1 2007 New England Patriots 36.8
    2 2011 Green Bay Packers 35.0
    3 1998 Minnesota Vikings 34.8
    4 2011 New Orleans Saints 34.2
    5 2000 St. Louis Rams 33.8
    5 1983 Washington Redskins 33.8
    7 1967 Oakland Raiders 33.4
    8 2012 New England Patriots 33.3
    9 1999 St. Louis Rams 32.9
    10 2004 Indianapolis Colts 32.6

    How far will they climb?
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    Agreed mostly. However, this one really comes down to a Fitzpatrick anti-clutch moment rather than a clutch defensive moment, doesn't it?
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    But those are all circumstances that may or may not happen. Watching this game, if you were cool all the way thinking "don't worry, Talib will get here soon and the secondary will improve as the year goes on, I'm pretty sure", you might be a robot.
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    Rough day for the Lb's. Mayo, Spikes and Hightower all had a bad day at the office. Now having said that. Spikes at the end of games that are close is clutch. Popped the ball lose on Jackson(tho recovered by the bills)..

    McC was huge. Two forced turnovers to stop 2 TD's.
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    I've been on McCourty's side all along this season. This game has to buy him some leeway from the haters.
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    I have an honest question...after seeing that today, Talib should be plugged in as a starter on D, no question. But where does he go? I know Dennard had a mediocre (at best) game, but I think I'd rather leave him out there to learn. Arrington will never improve from what he is, I think he should be the one going to 3rd CB.

    Why do we run a no huddle offense when we're trying to kill the clock? Josh McDaniels seems to have WTF moments every game.

    When I coach my 8 to 9 year old flag football team, I emphasize QB pressure leads to bad throws and turnovers. Should I let Mike Patricia know this little nugget of information, because he doesn't seem to. And when we accidentally had our DL get near Fitzpatrick today he looked terrible. You'd think he'd have gotten the message by now. :confused: :confused: :confused:

    At the end of the day, this win most likely won us the division so I'll take it. But our D still has a LONG way to go to get past whatever the first team we play in the playoffs is. I shudder to think of AJ Green against our secondary if we don't get a first round bye.
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    I think we should all send an Xmas card to today's referee crew ... :D:D:D
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    I'd include the Broncos in there too (Ninkovich's FF), because even though it was a 10 point lead, a lot of people had it as an inevitable loss.

    And it's not just expectation. People post like it's guaranteed. I could probably find at least 10 posts in the game thread of people stating that the Pats lost like it's a fact.
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    I have major reservations regarding this defense and its ability to become a Superbowl champion. Divisional game aside, nearly 500 yards and over 30 points at home to the Bills (THE BILLS) is pathetic.
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    They effortlessly drove right down the field, and didn't win because Fitzpatrick made a boneheaded play. I don't think there was anything about that last drive to prove the people who thought we'd lose the game wrong.

    Let me put it this way, Buffalo had the ball with 2:06 left to play on their own 20. If I gave you two options: 1 - try to stop them on defense, or 2 - have them score on the first play from scrimmage, giving your offense the ball with about 1:35 left, needing a FG to win it. Which would you pick?
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    what an ugly win, but a win nonetheless.

    just when you think the defense is progressing, they turn in this turd of a performance today. it's sad when 37 doesn't guarantee a win.

    seems more often than not, when the offense can put the game out of reach, they fail in getting that score or that extra first down.

    lots of room for improvement, and hopefully the team does progress or it's a short postseason
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    Not getting my hopes up for much so I don't get disappointed. It's frustrating that our defense seems to have gotten worse, not sure how Belichick let that happen. Bad tackling today and bad penalties taken. We put up points but it still feels like a struggle with our offense. Some questionable playcalling (another trick play when we need an important score?) once again A LOT of drops. Welker dropped 2 huge passes. Our best options were Lloyd who catches every pass from his knees and Branch who is old as dirt. We need to use Gronk more. We forced Vereen a little too much today. Woodhead once again surprised and did really well when they called on him. Edelman should never see a snap on offense again. Baffled as to how we could be +3 in turnover differential, a huge difference in penalties, and the offense was scoring yet the Bills still could've won if Fitzpatrick threw his last pass a little bit harder. Thank God for Tom Brady.
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    You can try and blame the players but this rush 4, soft zone for 75% of plays is just terrible

    There is no pressure up the middle (Wilfork and Love have been awful) so to keep rushing the same four with no blitz, big linebackers who are dreadful in coverage and what is a poor secondary bar McCourty is just really poor coaching
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    I don't understand how easy qbs are making it look against the defense.

    The patriots have drafted good talent in all positions, but they can't play good together.
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    Three Up:
    1. Danny Woodhead (explosive, big 3rd down conversions)
    2. Jermaine Cunningham (Some big sacks, fumble recovery, good pressure)
    3. Stevan Ridley (good change of pace, some big plays, took load off of Tommy)
    3B. Stephen Gostkowski (3 big field goals, bunch of touchbacks)

    Three Down:
    1. Alfonzo Dennard (beaten constantly)
    2. Linebacking Corp. (Poor, Poor, tackling)
    3. Wes Welker (2 big drops, one on opening drive that would have been touchdown, and in our own end zone)
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