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  1. TriplecHamp

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    Dear BB, this is the ILB of your dreams (I think) If you could be so kind to draft him to play alongside Mayo it would be greatly appreciated. I understand tha Dline and Oline and even pass rush may be bigger needs right now but this is part of the formula to a fast aggressive SMART defense. Please also draft DE help if available.:D
    The Following are not highlight films but rather a collection of plays (good and bad) that will show Rolando's talent and what he needs to work on. IMO this guy would be perfect alongside Mayo. Some argue pass rush is a bigger need and would rather see maybe a Greg Hardy, Sergio Kindle or Jerry Hughes drafted but RM would bring a more complete backer than any of those offer and Id also like to see more pressure from up the middle. RM is a 3 down backer with an excellent work ethic and great speed. WAR ROLANDO McCLAIN:D
    YouTube - Universal Draft Presents LB Rolando McClain of Alabama - Part 1 of 2
    YouTube - Universal Draft Presents LB Rolando McClain of Alabama - Part 2 of 2
    Rolando McClain Stats, News, Photos - Alabama Crimson Tide - NCAA College Football - ESPN
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    We may have to trade up for him but I would be happy with the pick.
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    I say no, tbh. The team has too many needs to be trading up like that, and a mid-round run-stuffer sharing time with Guyton and McKenzie is good enough, imo. I think OLB, WR, Guard, and maybe even TE are all bigger needs, along with CB if Bodden leaves.
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    I'm fine with trading up for a blue-chip ILB or NT or DE.
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    I agree with you about our needs but honestly we can get all of those along with McClain. Draft McClain in the first using one of your twos and Go OLB and WR in the second. There is only one tight end that will go in the first round and most likely same with OG. Dez Bryant may be the only wideout to go in the first round as well so I think you have to go BPA or tradeup if we stay where we are. Sergio Kindle would be a good option around where we pick as would Gresham if TE is your favorite option.
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    Yeah, but using a 1st and 2nd to trade up leaves 2 2nds for other needs. That means that out of WR, Guard, TE, and run-stuffing ILB, 2 can be filled in the 2nd, while the other 2 have to wait until the 4th or later. I'd rather get 4 solid guys than pay a lot for one stud.
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    We have enough solid players. We need playmakers
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    I agree... and with the 22/23 pick in the draft, we might not have to trade up that much.
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    couldnt have said it better myself
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    McClain is your run stuffer, your Blitzer, your coverage backer, he can pretty much do it all and If he dosnt satisfy the run stuffer your looking for dont forget we have McKenzie back next season. We can get a third out of a trade or possibly compensation for Wilfork if he walks. I like Jordan Shipley who we can get with at third or late second and you can get Aaron Hernandez in the second as well. OG is weak this year so unless we get one in the first round we would be reaching on one in the second.
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    I am on this wagon too......I approve this message
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    I think you're right on McClain. He is so physically gifted, yet he understands the game of football well beyond his years. To have a player that smart out there, pairing him with another smart guy in Mayo, would just be so good.

    I also think McClain could develop into a big time leader for this team. Of course, the Pats will have to trade up to go get him. I don't care, throw one of the 2nd rounders, maybe a third rounder in 2011. Go get the kid.
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    I don't know if we have enough even "solid" players.
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    Rarely do I focus on only one draft prospect, simply because the entire draft, if managed correctly, can address most needs. But when you observe the Pats defense on a weekly basis, it's obvious the D is missing some key ingredients. The lack of experience and leadership is a huge void. The lack of impact players in the front seven is another. I see McClain as one player who not only will make an impact physically, but being a leader on a Saban-coached defense, will provide the veteran smarts necessary to correct the Pats mistake prone defense. And unlike a rookie edge rusher, he'll start from the get-go. This defense, for the entire season, was inconsistent at best. McClain, Mayo, and the young talent in the secondary will help solidify the foundation and create an identity that was sorely missed. Belichick has to start somewhere...and adding this one player will address several concerns.
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    we didnt win three superbowls on pass rushing... I miss Bruschi :(
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    I agree, we need playmakers. Preferably more than 1.

    McClain is my #1 prospect for the Pats, and I'd be in favor of trading up for him if possible and the cost is not prohibitive. As an alternative, I'd also consider going after Karlos Dansby in FA, as he will almost certainly be a UFA. I think that Dansby is a less talented but more experienced version of McClain, and would bring a veteran presence. That would allow us to target other playmakers. I would also consider packaging 42 and 45 to move into the 1st round and get a second blue chip prospect.
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    Mayo,

    If Berry fell out of the top 10 based on the history of safeties not being selected in the top 10 would you take him?
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    It seems as though he diagnoses plays very well. But, it also seems as though he is an arm tackler. No thanks
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    I like McClain especially since he was the QB of Saban's defense, but I think a playmaker at OLB is a bigger 1st round need. Our pass rush is abysmal. You can't expect your corners to be able to cover WR's for 7 seconds and you can't give the QB all day to operate.

    I think it's a combination of personnel and scheme. We didn't really have anyone with the skill set of a great pass rusher, although we all thought Adalius would be that guy. Our scheme also doesn't seem to be mad for an elite pass rusher. The style of D the Ravens play is a much more aggressive and attacking scheme. We like trying to confuse people by dropping different people into coverage. I don't like our read and react style of defense. I'd much rather us try to force the issue on defense and turn up the aggressiveness instead of sitting back and guarding so much against the big play. Look at how Baltimore's aggression rattled Brady and our offense today.
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    Tough call. It would depend on who else is available.

    First, I doubt Berry falls out of the top 10, and even if he did we would have to trade up quite a bit to get him. Though you can make an argument that Texas S Earl Thomas may be as good a playmaker as Berry, and he will probably go in the 15-20 range, not far from where we pick.

    Second, I feel that our #1 need is blue chip playmakers who can make a difference, almost regardless of position. I'd much rather have a blue chip safety who can turn games around like Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed than a red chip OLB. So from that point of view, I would have to give a lot of thought to one of those guys if the cost wasn't prohibitive.

    But if other blue chip prospects or playmakers are available at positions of greater need, I would probably have to go in that direction. I'd probably rather have a Cody, Dunlap, or Spiller (and certainly a McClain) than another safety, if a Berry, given our depth at the position.
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    Given the guys they already have there, I just don't see enough value added (since the new safety would probably replace one of the safeties already on the team) to justify it.

    I'd like to see the Pats add an FA and a top-100 draft pick at both LB positions.
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    I'd like to address SILB and both OLB positions through either FA and the draft. Either bring in Karlos Dansby at SILB and draft 2 playmakers with high upside, or bring in a FA pass rusher such as Shawne Merriman and trade up for Rolando McClain at SILB, while drafting a developmental pass rusher with high upside.
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    Do u think Merriman has anything after his knee surgery. I realize it's a wait and see approach a la Brady..
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    Right now they have mcclain going number 11 to the broncos.so if they i would take him there is really no good ilb around us . so i think we should do this try and get Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU and sign Karlos Dansby or DeMeco Ryans or Kirk Morrison. ryans and mayo would be sick .but ryans would most likely would stay in houston so lets go big for dansby. are coners are fine i think there young so there get better but it doesnt hurt to bring in a older guy.for dline bring in a younf dt and resign wilfork.and we should be good there. For i really think we should try to get Willie Parker as are main guy next with fred taylor and sammy morris.im sick of laurence maroney,get rid of him please.for wr i know this sounds crazy but bring in Terrell owens,guy will free up moss and they would not be able to double team them.For te either resign watson or draft or sign anybody that can block or catch a few.Oline jus add littel things and they will stay fine.for next year we should be a 12 to 14 win team if we stay healthy and get a new DC
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    It would have been better if McClain declared next season. We would probably be able to get him then.

    But this is a pipedream. BB will never trade into the top 5, and that is where McClain will get drafted.
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    Unfortunately, I believe you are right. He'll be in the top 10 for sure.
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    No way he goes top 5.Highest he goes is 10 or 11, wherever the Broncos first pick is.
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    This McLain thread reminds me of similar Curry threads last year. We would like the player, but he will get drafted too high to even considering trading up for,

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