Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by Ian, Apr 23, 2010.
Since it is tomorrow - let's start discussing possibilities for day two in this thread.
Possibilities for day 2: Draft a punter, another DB, a TE, and heck maybe even an offensive coordinator. :rocker:
Im messin around, hope they work the front 7 on defense and some offensive firepower.
I agree with drafting a punter but we also need to draft a holder in the 2nd round to maximize Jake Ingram's talents.
Now that would perfect our special teams.
You should be running the show!
Okay, in all seriousness olb and de MUST be addressed
Corey Wooton? Some have him as end, some as olb
I think he's too slow for linebacker, and too thin for end, maybe he could bulk up? I do like him.
Don't really have a preference for any of the ends listed, my guy was Alualu, can't believe he went so early.
As for the linebackers, I love Kindle, Dunlap, and Lane. I would be very happy if we could grab one. Dunlap was my original binky, hopefully his off field crap checked out. We'll see..
If the Pats come away with Kindle somehow tomorrow, Ill call it a win.
An absolute TON of guys as opposed to, say, CB where all the top guys are gone.
Anyway, in addition to your list there's a ridiculous group of WR left too. I'd love to get Benn or G. Tate, two from your list and in the 3rd get a RB like Hardesty.
TE, pass rushing OLB, and 3-4 DE. Fans froth at the mouth because one or both of the defenders will be too raw to be likely to contribute in 2010.
That's 3 picks. Pats will make 3-5 Day 2 picks total. Almost any position (including doubling-up on ones already taken) is a possibility.
If I had to pick one other position to guess they'll go for, it's RB.
We should just use all of our late picks on a pass rusher and find the best one. Probably gives us a better chance to find a good one, and we'll end up cutting players anyway. -)
I would like to see a two-dimensional offense led by Tom Brady. It works wonders and wins Super Bowls. Everyone points to the Welker injury and lack of WR depth for our offensive problems last year. Well, we finished 3rd in the NFL in points scored. Just imagine if we had a solid running game that other teams needed to respect.
Of all the positions on the field outside of QB, defensive line is the most important. You can't have enough good, quality players, and maybe there is someone out there resembling Seymour.
As for WR, Demaryious Thomas would have looked good in NE, but there are always plenty of productive WRs deep into the draft. I wouldn't mind seeing us grab one in round 2.
I think a good analogy to use, to make some of the "jump off the Tobin Bridge types" come down from the edge is this:
You're in your fantasy football draft, you're in round 3 let's say, you already have a running back and a wr, there are only let's say 2 running backs left that you even think are worthy of starting on a weekly basis, but TONS of qbs left. You take the rb (assuming you're in a two rb start league, and a one qb start league...which I'm not lol) because you'll have plenty of opportunities at a good qb in the later rounds.
Now if we don't take a de and olb in round 2 then it's a different story and I'm jumping off the bridge with them.
I originally put this in at the end of the day one thread, but it really belongs here. This is a look at some of the players available Friday and who's picking when. Pats start the day out with the 12th, 15th, and 21st pick of the day.
QB: Clausen, McCoy
RB: Gerhart, McCluster, McKnight, Dwyer
TE: Gronkowski, Dickerson, McCoy, Pitta, Dickson, Hernandez, Graham
WR: Tate, Benn, Decker, LaFell, Williams, Briscoe, Shipley
OT: Saffold, Brown, Campbell, Ducasse, Jerry, Veldheer, Beadles
DL: Cody, Wooten, Price, Houston, Joseph
DE/OLB: Kindle, Griffen, Misi, Sapp, Dunlap, Carrington
LB: Washington, Lee, Bowman, Spikes
S: Mays, Allen, Burnett
CB: Murphy, Cook, Franks
Obviously the Pats aren't going to draft a QB here but it's worth noting, as picks such as those by other teams move the Pats closer to a player that they may want to grab.
2.33 - Rams
2.34 - Vikings
2.35 - Bucs
2.36 - Chiefs
2.37 - Eagles
2.38 - Browns
2.39 - Raiders
2.40 - Chargers
2.41 - Bills
2.42 - Bucs
2.43 - Ravens
2.44 - PATS
2.45 - Broncos
2.46 - Giants
2.47 - PATS
2.48 - Panthers
2.49 - 49ers
2.50 - Chiefs
2.51 - Texans
2.52 - Steelers
2.53 - PATS
2.54 - Bengals
2.55 - Eagles
2.56 - Packers
2.57 - Bengals
2.58 - Cardinals
2.59 - Cowboys
2.60 - Seahawks
2.61 - Jets
2.62 - Vikings
2.63 - Colts
2.64 - Saints
3.90 - Pats
4.113 - Pats
my top 3 at each position in the pats pick range are
give me arthur jones, Dennis Pitta, Greg Hardy, and Arrelious Benn, day 2 and ill be happy
OMG the draft starts at 6pm tomorrow?!?!!?? I don't get outta work til 6!!! *^&^*&&^%&^%%^^%
I hear you - I have to work until 8pm tomorrow :explative
pats will for sure trade one of the 2nd rounders for a first or 2nd + something next yr.they wont pick all 4 IMO
Pats will probably pick a TE with one of our 2nd rounders. We'll trade another 2nd rd pick for a couple of later round picks (probably for a 3rd and a 4th round). Then the 3rd second rd pick will be for an interior OL.
Then we'll probably parlay one of our 3rd and a 4th for a veteran OLB or DE.
Sounds about right.
God I hope I'm wrong.
Make or break day for the Pats.....
Kindle has medical issues that include narcolepsy which is being treated with medication and ADD which is also being treated with medication... That may be why he fell. And it may be why he falls a ways farther or Bill passes on him.
I posted this in mg's thread but it really belongs here. Four players from this list (because so far Gosslin has been spot on) will be joining Devin McCourty as NEP. Clausen of course is not one of them. Areas of need appear to be DE, OLB, WR, TE, OL, RB. NE current picks are 44, 47, 53, 90. They will have several additional picks on Saturday beginning at 114. There are still quite a few OLB and DE candidates and TE's and WR's and OLmen and RB's available.
13. Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame
30. Rodger Saffold OT Indiana
32. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas
33. Taylor Mays S Southern Cal
34. Rob Gronkowski TE Arizona
36. Brian Price DT UCLA
38. Sean Lee MLB Penn State
39. Nate Allen S S. Florida
40. Koa Misi DE Utah
41. Golden Tate WR Notre Dame
42. Daryl Washington OLB TCU
43. Chris Cook CB Virginia
44. Charles Brown OT Southern Cal
45. Everson Griffen DE Southern Cal
46. Terrence Cody NT Alabama
47. Damian Williams WR Southern Cal
48. Tony Moeaki TE Iowa
49. Ben Tate HB Auburn
50. Navorro Bowman OLB Penn State
51. Regus Benn WR Illinois
52. Colt McCoy QB Texas
53. Aaron Hernandez TE Florida
54. Jonathan Asamoah G Illinois
55. Dexter McCluster WR Mississippi
56. Linval Joseph NT E.Carolina
57. Dominique Franks CB Oklahoma
58. Corey Wootton DE Northwestern
59. Dennis Pitta TE BYU
60. Bruce Campbell OT Maryland
61. Jerome Murphy CB S.Florida
62. Zane Beadles G Utah
63. Thaddeus Gibson DE Ohio State
64. Javier Arenas CB Alabama
65. Toby Gerhart HB Stanford
66. Vladimir Ducasse OT UMass
68. Eric Decker WR Minnesota
69. Jimmy Graham TE Miami-F
70. Lamarr Houston DT Texas
71. Morgan Burnett S Ga. Tech
72. Corey Peters DT Kentucky
73. Brandon LaFell WR LSU
74. Chad Jones S LSU
75. Taylor Price WR Ohio
76. Montario Hardesty HB Tennessee
77. Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
78. Emmanuel Sanders WR SMU
79. Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson
80. Al Woods DT LSU
81. Andre Roberts WR Citadel
82. Aaron Spievey CB Iowa
83. Jordan Shipley WR Texas
84. Jason Worilds DE Virginia Tech
85. Andrew Quarless TE Penn State
86. Alex Carrington DE Arkansas St.
87. Myron Lewis CB Vanderbilt
88. D'Anthony Smith DT La.Tech
89. Major Wright S Florida
90. Joe McKnight HB Southern Cal
91. Torrell Troup NT Central Fla.
92. Carlos Dunlap DE Florida
93. Mardy Gilyard WR Cincinnati
94. Jermaine Cunningham DE Florida
95. Selvish Capers OT W.Virginia
96. Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest
97. T.J. Ward S Oregon
98. Ed Dickson TE Oregon
99. Eric Norwood OLB S. Carolina
100. Dorin Dickerson
Bill apparently commented yesterday that the sweet spot for the Patriots this year is the second and third round.
Second and third round imo should be used to upgrade the front 7 on defense and some fire power for Brady, maybe even a punter.
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