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I hope they do trade Brady. Call me an idiot or whatever, but the key details are this:
Brady is 32 coming off major reconstructive knee surgery. He'll never be the same guy in the pocket ever again.
There is a huge dropoff from Brady to Cassell in terms of productivity and talent. The only thing bigger than that dropoff is the incredible value that you'd get for him out of a trade. Think two 1sts and a young starting defensive player. If you went to San Francisco and said, give me Patrick Willis and your next two first round picks, they'd have a serious chat about it. At that point you're talking about building another dynasty, guys. Are you that attached to Brady that you wouldn't want to see a team chock full of young stars that will contend not just for four more years, but for ten?
I dunno. Guys like Cassell don't just come around out of nowhere. This isn't an accident, the way he's played the past few games. If he could get a long ball, and a full training camp as the starter. It's worth considering.
I hope they do trade Brady. Call me an idiot or whatever, but the key details are this:
Brady is 32 coming off major reconstructive knee surgery. He'll never be the same guy in the pocket ever again.
There is a huge dropoff from Brady to Cassell in terms of productivity and talent. The only thing bigger than that dropoff is the incredible value that you'd get for him out of a trade. Think two 1sts and a young starting defensive player. If you went to San Francisco and said, give me Patrick Willis and your next two first round picks, they'd have a serious chat about it. At that point you're talking about building another dynasty, guys. Are you that attached to Brady that you wouldn't want to see a team chock full of young stars that will contend not just for four more years, but for ten?
I dunno. Guys like Cassell don't just come around out of nowhere. This isn't an accident, the way he's played the past few games. If he could get a long ball, and a full training camp as the starter. It's worth considering.
I hope they do trade Brady. Call me an idiot or whatever, but the key details are this:
Brady is 32 coming off major reconstructive knee surgery. He'll never be the same guy in the pocket ever again.
There is a huge dropoff from Brady to Cassell in terms of productivity and talent. The only thing bigger than that dropoff is the incredible value that you'd get for him out of a trade. Think two 1sts and a young starting defensive player. If you went to San Francisco and said, give me Patrick Willis and your next two first round picks, they'd have a serious chat about it. At that point you're talking about building another dynasty, guys. Are you that attached to Brady that you wouldn't want to see a team chock full of young stars that will contend not just for four more years, but for ten?
I dunno. Guys like Cassell don't just come around out of nowhere. This isn't an accident, the way he's played the past few games. If he could get a long ball, and a full training camp as the starter. It's worth considering.
you're an idiot, or whatever.
This kind of response is exhibit A of why a great poster like PatJew just quit coming here. Just because someone says something you don't like doesn't make him an idiot. Respect your fellow posters, dude.you're an idiot, or whatever.
Well put. The lack of common sense on this board and in the media is enough to drive you crazy. I appreciate what Cassel has done, but I wouldn't trust him to lead this team if it didn't have Moss and Welker and the likes on it. Brady has been there and done that.
Fortunately, the folks running this team don't have kneejerk reactions like the fanbase does.
You're insane then. Those two 1sts could turn into nothing. Would you trade Brady for Mankins and Maroney? Hell, no. What about Wilfork and Watson? And those were all good picks.
How do you think Cassel will play without Moss and Welker around him? Seriously? I mean, come on. We have no idea how they would fare then, they might be terrible. Are you that in love with draft picks that you'd ship a HOFer just to get some?
Not to mention that whatever team Tom Brady is traded probably becomes the favorite to win the Super Bowl. Brilliant.
hmm, can you guess which stats are from 2001 and which ones are from
2008? And I hear player A had trouble with the long ball.
G Att Comp Pct Yds YPA YPG TD Int Rate
Player A 15 413 264 63.9 2,843 6.9 189.5 18 12 86.5
Player B 10 316 208 65.8 2,200 7.0 220.0 10 7 87.3
Point is....we neither have to annoint Matt Cassel a God or underestimate the job he has done this year to salvage a season, without the previous playing time others, including Brady, usually get.
Matt Cassel has had an amazing season and if the Patriots get to the playoffs hes the teams MVP.
Here's why this doesn't make sense. Because you aren't talking about a late-1st round pick like Maroney or Mankins, you're talking about a top five pick. You'd send him to San Francisco. And you'd also ask for a Patrick Willis. So even assuming you'd get a mid-late 1st the next year (after Brady predictably tears it up), you'd be getting a stud young defensive player to form a core with Meriweather and Wheatley and Mayo, and you'd get a top pick to grab either a franchise left tackle or some incredible defensive end. I wouldn't trade Brady for Wilfork and Mankins, of course not, but if we had a porous defensive line and offensive line, and the dropoff was not enough to keep you out of the playoffs, I'm not sure I wouldn't think about it.
They'll keep Brady and I'll be glad. I'm sure his knee will heal, even if it takes a year or two. And in three years he'll be 35, and maybe he wins another super bowl maybe not. In four years he'll be thinking about retiring and we'll be thinking about "the future." Or, conversely, in four years you'll have a Matt Cassell at the prime of his career, a defense with potentially five well-coached first-round picks, three of them from within the top ten of the draft, and a still-solid offense. Think about it, that's all I'm saying.