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Is this one of the threads that people just reply to increase their post count?

Cause this topic is a head scratcher at best. :)
 
Is this one of the threads that people just reply to increase their post count?

Cause this topic is a head scratcher at best. :)

You posted the exact same thing in the thread about booing. Your post count now has risen to 1,924. Congratulations.
 
wonder if increasing my posts will increase my sperm count??

man, I could be a REAL **** if that's the case...
 
I really don't understand what they're doing at the game. Aside from devouring crappy stadium food as if it were a gourmet feast, the visitors in our section sit there seemingly oblivious to the game. Then again, these corporate suck-ups of the week aren't paying the $180 for each seat so it's a chance to socialize with their vapid associates, note the 1st syllable.

I agree with you, but you're fighting city hall and the laws of averages.

The problem is that once you have a venue with a 68,000+ seating capacity that is drawing from a fan-base of literally millions of people, the law of large numbers is going to assert itself; we're going to end up with a crowd that reflects the, at times annoying, diversity of that fan-base.

As long as "fans" (term used lightly) don't create a disturbance, they can be as "oblivious to the game" and as "vapid" as they want to be. The law of large numbers also suggests that, from time to time, some of those 68,000 ticket holders will gift a friend or associate, who is not a Pats fan, with their tickets and that said fan may well express his or her allegiance in irksome but legitimate ways (cheering or even cheering loudly).

I don't own season tickets to any team's games for a variety of reasons, including the expense of buying a season pass for seats where the players are something besides a bunch of tiny action figures and the ball looks like something other than an over-sized Pez; my 61" plasma and surround sound spoiled me years ago. But, I do know that I hold my breath whenever I purchase a one-off ticket, especially when I'm taking my kids to the game, and hope that I don't have to deal with obnoxious and/or drunken fans, whatever their allegiance.
 
I'm in 227 and like my seats a lot, aside from the "problem neighbors." The Dolphin fan sitting next to me Sunday (courtesy of the investment firm) kept jumping up, waving his arms and screaming every time Miami scored or Brady was sacked, etc. I can deal with that on a limited basis, but not EVERY FREAKING GAME in my home stadium. I personally make a point of being respectfully quiet whenever I travel to see the Pats at away games.

Obnoxious fan activity is usually a direct result of an inferiority complex.

These symptoms typically occur more frequently with teams who haven’t won anything in 30 or 40 years.

(* i.e. see NY Jets or Miami Dolphins)
 
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You posted the exact same thing in the thread about booing. Your post count now has risen to 1,924. Congratulations.

Closing in on 2,000...I wonder if he'll respond to our head-scratching comments to kick it up again.
 
Tell them to give me some tickets! I've never been to an NFL game.
I'm a Pats fan too, so it's cool.
 
I guess I'm a bigger a-hole than most folks on this board.

If a competitor had the balls to put his clients in front of me, I would poison them with a variety of lies.

For example, tell them they picked a good week to come to a game. The jerks in <section xyz> passed their tix to someone else today. A few weeks ago they got in a fight with the <investment company name> guests. You, out of courtesy and compassion wrote <the exact name of the guy> at <investment company name> suggesting that he disclose the dangers/risks/concerns/whatever to the <investment company> guests so they can be prepared. Did <the exact name of the guy> fail to pass this on? No matter, the troublemakers aren't here today. enjoy the game.

Or maybe the reverse. After the next game you can write the investment company and tell them how much you enjoy chatting with their clients.
 
Here's an odd issue I have been dealing with: I've been a season ticket holder for 18 years including every season at Gillette since it opened. During that time I've had one seat upgrade which, lo and behold, placed me amidst seats held by a Boston investment firm run by Ivy League grads and assorted corporate stuffed shirts. That includes about eight seats to my immediate left and another four or so in front of me.

My problem is that this company (which for now will go unnamed) routinely distributes its tix as a perk to clients/employees including (1.) fans of visiting teams and (2.) clueless dweebs who likely believe a football is stuffed with duck feathers. What I'm getting sick of is the revolving door of visiting fans sitting next to me who get likkered up and raise hell whenever Brady gets sacked, their team scores, etc.

So, I finally wrote the company a letter that includes the following:

"Because these tickets are distributed by [said company] as a company perk, their users are not personally invested in respectable behavior as normally would be assumed of private season ticket holders. Particularly egregious is the comportment of fans of visiting teams who often occupy your seats. Alcohol consumption compounds this problem. If you could at least limit your ticket distribution to Patriots fans, it would go a long way toward alleviating this difficulty. I have chosen to write you directly as a courtesy short of involving the Patriots ticket office. If things don’t change, I will extend this complaint to the team."

To which I received a reply today from the firm's chief administrative officer, including:

"Regarding your specific request to limit ticket distribution only to Patriot fans, we cannot agree to do so. Our staff and visitors come from all over the country and often select the games they attend based on the opponent because it’s their one chance so see their favorite team. As a fan I’m sure you can appreciate the desire to stay connected to your home team. Besides, I believe the Patriots, the NFL, and laws protecting free speech and non-discrimination would not want or allow us to take such a position."

Emphasis on the last sentence is mine; an outrageous claim to which I couldn't help but respond to:

"I am confident that 'the Patriots, the NFL and laws protecting free speech and discrimination' have absolutely no bearing on who your company decides to give them to as they're your property. To suggest as much is ludicrous. You can give them to whoever you wish and it certainly is within your rights to limit them to Patriots fans.

Enduring drunken display behavior by fans of visiting teams via [the company] is not my idea of how to enjoy the NFL experience. It also casts your company in a very poor light -- a consideration you might wish to weigh accordingly. I will pursue this matter with the Patriots if things do not improve, as noted in my initial letter. I ask you once again to please give Patriots fans primary consideration in distributing your tickets, ESPECIALLY with the playoffs coming up."

It appears the company doesn't plan to change its way of doing things. Though I haven't contacted the Patriots yet, I also doubt they'd intercede on my behalf, but another seat location change might be a solution. I just thought I'd share this with the board and would like to hear from others having similar experiences at Gillette.

Talk to them.

Since I only go to away games, my first rule is to talk to everyone around me.

It does make the game more enjoyable.
 
I always talk to everyone around me...
and if they don't talk back...I talk to myself...
 
in that case, looks like I picked a bad week to give up Cialis...
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Hit them where it hurts.

Why do business entertainment laws allow this kind of tax writeoff in the first place? How come these tickets are paid for with tax writeoffs? How come the doofuses sitting in the lux boxes get to eat caviar (they have to pay for their champagne out of pocket at least) on the taxpayer?

Get rid of business entertainment expenses or at least limit them to a modest per diem for business lunches (there are decent restaurants everywhere charging $20-25 for an entree).
 
Dig up some dirt on the investment company, print it and put it in their seats.
 
two hours before gametime, drop all those empty red seats open to general admission, first come first served....everyone gets a free foam green foot to wave at Jets games...the Pats get increased crowd support...what's the downside?
 
two hours before gametime, drop all those empty red seats open to general admission, first come first served....everyone gets a free foam green foot to wave at Jets games...the Pats get increased crowd support...what's the downside?

Muffy will be wicked pissed
 
Obnoxious fan activity is usually a direct result of an inferiority complex.

These symptoms typically occur more frequently with teams who haven’t won anything in 30 or 40 years.

(* i.e. see NY Jets or Miami Dolphins)

The fact that Steelers and Yankees fans are among the most obnoxious seems to contradict this reasoning. (and many would throw Red Sox and Pats fans in there as well)
 
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