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  1. HarkDawg

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    Dec. 6 Miami 8:20 p.m.* NBC (Away)
    Dec. 13 CAROLINA 1 p.m.* Fox (Home)
    Dec. 20 Buffalo 1 p.m.* CBS (Away)
    Dec. 27 JACKSONVILLE 1 p.m.* CBS (Home)
    Jan. 3 Houston 1 p.m.* CBS (Away)





    A manageable schedule....... We must defeat Miami.

    If we cannot go 4/5 in winning. We do not deserve the Playoffs.
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    Agree totally, also agree about the 4 of 5. I really don't see us running the table, but certainly hope I'm wrong. We could very well lose at MIA or at HOU, hell we could even lose at BUF--as they are playing rejuvenated, and will be looking for revenge + they usually play better at home. The weather could even be a factor there, who knows? Maybe JAX even plays us tough, I wouldn't be shocked.

    As far as the MIA game we have 2 major numbers to look at :

    THE POSITIVE:

    BB's record after a loss, as we have only lost 2x in a row once since 03 (Nov.06)

    THE NEGATIVE:

    The dreaded "MNF" rule. This stat is shocking!
    When teams lose on the road during "MNF," then have to go on the road again during a shortened week, they have approx. a 15% chance of winning. This is an alarming stat, and makes the MIA game even tougher.
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    We should be able to go 5-0 with that schedule, and at the very least 4-1. Anything less would be a huge disappointment.
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    Houston is not a gimme. they and jacksonville will be tough since they will be attempting to get a spot in the playoffs.
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    I never said it was.... I said we should be able to go 4/5. Obviously a Miami @ home concerns me, and a Houston @ Home is alarming as well.



    PATS on the road should make anybody nervous this year. We are not getting it done. Those are our 2 toughest games and I think we will split them.
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    Jacksonville at Pats does not concern me..... as much as the Away games do.

    1 game at a time.


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    Yeah, there are two things that occasionally happen with NFL schedules that should not be permitted to happen. One is scheduling a team to play three consecutive road games. The other is having a team that played Monday night being scheduled to play an away game the following week. The week is already a day and a half shorter with that schedule; now more time lost due to travel the following week. And to have both the Monday night plus the following game both on the road, that's a big oversight by the NFL.

    Now before somebody accuses me of whining and making excuses, I'm not; I think both of those scenarios should always be avoided by the schedulemakers for all 32 teams. In addition, I am very confident the Pats will defeat Miami even with the short week to prepare.
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    Pretty confident of five wins there to be honest. We're at a stage where we win the games we should win and lose the games we're underdogs for, and we should win all the remaining games. Obviously this week's tricky with a road game on the back of a tough road game and a short week, but I think we'll get it done. After that, Houston's the only real question mark. Might be the case that there's not a lot for us to gain from winning that one so there could be a slip-up. On the flipside they might essentially be done and we might still be in with a shout of the #2 seed, and I fancy us to get the win in that scenario.
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    Yeah we need those 5 games. BB coached teams are nearly unbeatable in December...
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    Boy that #2 seed would be great.

    Basically, you have a bye week to prepare, then a home game with a fired up crowd. That gives you a 50/50 shot at going to the AFCCG.

    The #2 seed is sooo important, and we most likely will not have it now. We'd need both SD and CIN to falter down the stretch, and I don't see BOTH losing their edges down the stretch. On top of that, we'd have to run the table.
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    If the coaching staff continues to be utterly inept, the we deserve to lose to Houston, and possibly Jacksonville.
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    I agree. However, I would note that 3-2 will very likely get su in the playoffs as long as we beat the fins and the bills.

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    The MIA game is at 1 PM.
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    Looks like I've seen my last televised Pats game of the regular season :( (I'm going to the Mia. game). Hopefully, next time I see them on TV they will have become a beautiful butterfly.
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    Looking at the schedules, I can see this happening. Here are the two team's remaining schedules.

    Chargers:
    Week 13 Sun. Dec. 6 @ Browns*
    Week 14 Sun. Dec. 13@ Cowboys*
    Week 15 Sun. Dec. 20 Bengals
    Week 16 Fri. Dec. 25 @ Titans
    Week 17 Sun. Jan. 3 Redskins*

    Besides the Browns, this is going to be a very tough schedule. The Titans are one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now and the Redskins have been playing better as of late. Though, I expect the Redskins to have the RVS running in the back by that time. Cowboys and Bengal games will be very tough for them. I can see at least one loss on here.


    Bengals:
    Sun., Dec. 6 DETROIT 1 p.m.*
    Sun., Dec. 13 at Minnesota 1 p.m.*
    Sun., Dec. 20 at San Diego 4:05 p.m.*
    Sun., Dec. 27 KANSAS CITY 1 p.m.*
    Sun., Jan. 3 at N.Y. Jets 1 p.m.*

    I have a strong feeling they will lose at Minnesota and have a very tough game on the road at San Diego, which will help us either way for the Bye.

    With these schedules, and with the Patriots schedule, I could see us getting the bye, but I dont think it is a given that we win out. We have a tough game the last game vs the Texas and a tough game down in Miami where we never seem to play with. However, looking at the schedules if we win out, it is pretty safe to say that we will get the #2 seed.

    The Chargers are 6-3 in the AFC
    2-2 vs common opponents with a game vs the Titans.
    The Bengals are 7-3 in the AFC
    1-2 vs common opponents with the Patriots still having to play the Texans.

    The Patriots are 7-3 in the AFC

    Looking at this, we have the tie breaker vs the Bengals currently if it is a tie at the end of the year. We are tied currently with the Chargers in tie breakers, with a huge game vs the Titans to decide common opponents.

    How I look at it, we win out, we get the #2 seed looking at this. I don't see either of these teams winning out.
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    Honestly if the pats dont run the table then they dont deserve to be in the playoffs. These next 5 games are totally winnable not one team has a decent qb with the exception of Houston and we are a better team than Houston
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    What a bunch of crap! Do the jets deserve to make into the playoffs or would you choose Miami as deserving if the patriots lose another game or two? The division's best team DESERVES to be in the playoffs with a 12-4 record, with an 11-5 record or even with a 9-7 record.

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    Nice analysis, you're right, it does look a lot better when you figure one will cancel the other out when SD and CIN play. If our team can get hot like it usually does this time of yr, we do indeed have a shot at the #2 still.
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    Expect the Pats to go 3-2 in their remaining five games.
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    I've been pretty close to the Jags since I lived up there (dare I call them the team I root for unless they're playing the Pats :eek:) and, believe me, short of a dirty hit on Brady's shoulder like in 2006, we don't have much to worry about against them.
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    I said before the Saints game that the Patriots would lose 41-34 and that they'd run the table after that. I was not the least bit surprised that the offense put up a 38 spot on our D. I just expected our offense to put up more of a fight, and maybe underestimated the Saints' D.

    Like someone said, the only decent QB we face is Schaub, and as we've seen he's a first-half quarterback. In the second half of a game, he turns into Neil O Donnell.

    Anything but 5-0 would be a disappointment. Whether that's good enough for the 2 seed, doesn't matter. Just matters that they finish off strong.
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    I agree completely.
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    Actually, if the Pats go 4-1 the rest of the way they win the division regardless of what else happens, even if Miami and/or the Jets go 5-0 the rest of the way. Even if the Pats go 3-2 then either of those two other teams would not only have to go 5-0, but also win a tiebreaker.

    In other words while it would be extremely beneficial to beat Miami, it's actually not a do-or-die game for the Pats.
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    they are going to win the AFC east the jets and fish are both no better then 500 team's at best

    i would just like to see them win on the road at lest one time ill take 3 out of 5 win both home game's and go 1 and 2 on the road

    the bills are playing better and they did and all most beat the pats week one

    the fish do a good job on brady at home

    and houston can put 30 on the pat's

    even with that said all of the road team's are bad its just that the pats have played so bad on the road this year that i just cant see them going 5-0
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    Where do you see these two losses? They have Carolina and the Jaguars at home and Buffalo, Houston and the Dolphins without Ronnie Brown on the road. They will beat both Carolina and the Jaguars because there average road teams and frankly, average teams in a hole. I see possibly the Houston game as there only tough game left. They go at least 4-1 in this stretch.
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    He doesn't. He's just an idiot. Ignore him.
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    I think this actually undersells the importance of getting the 2 seed and the Pats chances of getting it.

    On the Pats chances, they don't need SD and Cincy to "falter." The Pats do need to run the table, and if they beat Miami there's absolutely no reason they won't do so. Obviously when SD and Cincy play each other, one will lose. All the Pats need is for the winning team to lose a game. The odds are much better that happens than it doesn't.

    On the importance of the #2 seed. The 2 seed has a much better than "50% chance" at the championship game. You've got 2 weeks to prepare for a home game against a team that has to play the week before--that game isn't a coin toss. It's HUGELY important to get it.

    And for the record, I think the Pats will.
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    See my post on the previous page (#18) ;)

    Once I saw the SD/CIN schedule and knew they had to play each other still, I whole heartedly agree with you. :)

    And as far as the 50% chance of going to the AFCCG, you're right, the proper statistical analysis gives the home team a chance in the low 60's, but I was just generally speaking.
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    I called 4/5 and stand by it.



    But we need to beat Miami. When we beat Miami and Buffalo....


    -technically we would need just 1 more win that scenario.^


    3 wins against the right opponents will get us into the Playoffs:)
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