The Long-Awaited 2009 UH Horizontal Sort

[dryheat44]

Well, I was going to do it differently this year, and put a value on each player, but in the interest of space, which is already going to be tight, I removed the player if he's expected to be long gone by the time I have him graded. For instance, I had both Maualuga and Stafford in the fourth round. Therefore, they won't show up here. Which brings me to point #2 -- this is a Patriots-specific board. There's many more players than usual (~220 compared to ~75 last year), but most would be in the late 7th-UDFA category. Here goes:

1-24
OT Eugene Monroe - Virginia
OT Jason Smith - Baylor
DL BJ Raji - Boston College
LB Aaron Curry - Wake Forest
CB Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio St

25-40
OT Michael Oher - Mississippi
OT William Beatty - Connecticut
OLB Clint Sintim - Virginia
DE Tyson Jackson - LSU
WR Darius Heyward-Bey - Maryland
WR Hakeem Nicks - North Carolina

41-55
TE Jared Cook - South Carolina
OT Jamon Meredith - South Carolina
OLB Connor Barwin - Cincinnati
CB Vontae Davis - Illinois
CB Darius Butler - Connecticut
DE Evander Hood - Missouri
S Patrick Chung - Oregon
WR Brian Robiskie - Ohio St

56-70
TE Chase Coffman - Missouri
TE Shawn Nelson - Southern Miss
OT Eben Britton - Arizona
C/G Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
C/G Max Unger - Oregon
C/G Eric Wood - Louisville
CB Alphonso Smith - Wake Forest
DB Sean Smith - Utah
OLB Michael Johnson - Georgia Tech
ILB Jasper Brinkley - South Carolina
S Louis Delmas - Western Michigan
S William Moore - Missouri

71-95
WR Derrick Williams - Penn St
WR Percy Harvin - Florida
CB DJ Moore - Vanderbilt
CB Coye Francies - San Jose St
CB Victor Harris - Virginia Tech
CB Asher Allen - Georgia
CB Mike Mickens - Cincinnati
TE James Casey - Rice
NT Ron Brace - Boston College
ILB Lawrence Sidbury - Richmond
S Michael Hamlin - Clemson
S Chip Vaughn - Wake Forest
S David Bruton - Notre Dame
DB Sherrod Martin - Troy

96-120
OT Lydon Murtha - Nebraska
OL TJ Lang - Eastern Michigan
CB Joe Burnett - Central Florida
CB Christopher Owens - San Jose St
CB Kevin Barnes - Maryland
DB Bradley Fletcher - Iowa
TE Travis Beckum - Wisconsin
WR Juaquin Iglesias - Oklahoma
WR Jarret Dillard - Rice
WR/QB Pat White - West Virginia
WR Brandon Tate - North Carolina
OLB Cody Brown - Connecticut
DE Dorell Scott - Clemson
DE Fili Moala - Southern Cal
S Rashad Johnson - Alabama
S Jairus Byrd - Oregon
S CJ Spillman - Marshall

121-160
ILB Antonio Appleby - Virginia
ILB Tyrone McKenzie - South Florida
ILB Joshua Mauga - Nevada
ILB Robert Francois - Boston College
OT Gerald Cadogan - Penn St
OT Cornelius Lewis - Tennessee St
OT Joel Bell - Furman
OT Robert Brewster - Ball St
OT Andrew Gardner - Georgia Tech
OT Alex Boone - Ohio St
C/G Antoine Caldwell - Alabama
C/G Blake Schlueter - Texas Christian
G Ryan Durand - Syracuse
CB Don Carey - Norfolk St
TE John Phillips - Virginia
TE Kory Sperry - Colorado State
NT Terrance Knighton - Temple
NT Sammie Lee Hill - Stillman
WR Tiquan Underwood - Rutgers
WR Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia
WR Darius Passmore - Marshall
WR Kevin Ogletree - Virginia
WR Austin Collie - Brigham Young
WR Eron Riley - Duke
DE Corvey Irvin - Georgia
DE Alex Magee - Purdue
DE Nader Abdallah - Ohio St
DE John Gill - Northwestern
OLB Pierre Walters - Eastern Illinois
RB Andre Brown - North Carolina St
RB James Davis - Clemson
RB Rashad Jennings - Liberty
RB Shonn Greene - Iowa
RB Tony Fiametta - Syracuse
S Keenan Lewis - Oregon St
DB Morgan Trent - Michigan
S Brandon Underwood - Cincinnati
S Derek Pegues - Mississippi St
S Otis Wiley - Michigan St

161-210
QB Curtis Painter - Purdue
OT Sebastian Vollmer - Houston
OT Andrew Hartline - Central Michigan
CB Cary Harris - Southern Cal
CB Bruce Johnson - Miami
CB Captain Munnerlyn - South Carolina
CB Mark Parson - Ohio
CB Jerraud Powers - Auburn
CB Brice McCain - Utah
CB Ladarius Webb - Nichols St
CB Terrail Lambert - Notre Dame
TE/QB Zachary Miller - Nebraska Omaha
TE Dan Gronkowski - Maryland
TE Anthony Hill - North Carolina St
TE Bear Pascoe - Fresno St
NT Lonnie Harvey - Morgan St
NT Vaughn Martin - Western Ontario
WR Brandon Gibson - Washington St
WR Kenny McKinley - South Carolina
WR Michael Jones - Arizona St
WR Manuel Johnson - Oklahoma
WR Mike Wallace - Mississippi
WR DJ Boldin - Wake Forest
OLB Brandon Long - Michigan St
OLB Mike Rivera - Kansas
ILB Matt Shaughnessy - Wisconsin
ILB Lee Robinson - Alcorn St
RB Ian Johnson - Boise St
RB Devin Moore - Wyoming
RB Kory Sheets - Purdue
C AQ Shipley - Penn St
C/G Dominic Green - Nevada
G/T Ryan Stanchek - West Virginia
G Rich Ohrnberger - Penn St
S Jonathan Casillas - Wisconsin
S Courtney Greene - Rutgers
S Keith Fitzhugh - Mississippi St
S Chris Clemons - Clemson
S Troy Nolan - Arizona St
S Jamarca Sanford - Mississippi

211+
OT Ben Coblyn - Massachusetts
OT Ryan McKee - Southern Miss
OT Paul Carpenter - Weber St
OT Phil Trautwein - Florida
OT Dane Randolph - Maryland
OT Chris Kemme - Akron
OL Greg Ryan - Western Kentucky
QB Sean Glennon - Virginia Tech
QB Brian Hoyer - Michigan St
QB Tom Brandstater - Fresno St
QB Mike Teel - Rutgers
QB Rudy Carpenter - Arizona St
CB Donald Washington - Ohio St
CB Brandon Hughes - Oregon St
CB Wopamo Osaisai - Stanford
CB London Fryar - Western Michigan
CB Ryan Palmer - Texas
CB Jahi Word-Daniels - Georgia Tech
CB DeAngelo Smith - Cincinnati
CB Michael Ray Garvin - Florida St
CB Weldon Brown - Lousiana Tech
CB Kevin Sanders - UAB
CB Vincent Butler - New Mexico St
DB Derek Cox - William and Mary
DB Sean Smalls - Massachusetts
TE Richard Quinn - North Carolina
TE Jared Bronson - Central Washington
TE Branden Ledbetter - Western Michigan
TE/S/QB Tyler Lorenzen - Connecticut
C/G Rob Bruggeman - Iowa
C Cecil Newton - Tennessee St
WR Jeremy Childs - Boise St
WR Sammie Stroughter - Oregon St
WR Quan Cosby - Texas
WR Greg Orton - Purdue
WR Vinny Perretta - Boise St
WR Julian Edelman - WR Kent St
WR Eric Peterman - Northwestern
NT Louis Ellis - Shaw
OLB Jarriett Buie - South Florida
OLB Will Davis - Illinois
OLB Stryker Sulak - Missouri
OLB Orion Martin - Virginia Tech
OLB Henry Melton - Texas
ILB Brandon Williams - Texas Tech
ILB Adam Vincent - UTEP
ILB Maurice Kitchens - Marshall
ILB Kirston Pittman - LSU
DE Khalif Mitchell - East Carolina
DE Rashaad Duncan - Pittsburgh
DE Ra'shon Harris - Oregon
DE Everette Pedescleaux - Northern Iowa
DE Richard Washington - Clark Atlanta
RB Andrew Johnson - Akron
RB Kyle Bell - Colorado St
RB Herb Donaldson - Western Illinois
RB Marcus Thigpen - Indiana
RB Quinn Johnson - LSU
RB Curtis Brinkley - Syracuse
RB Marlon Lucky - Nebraska
RB LaRod Stephens-Howling - Pittsburgh
RB Rodney Ferguson - New Mexico
RB Tristan Davis - Auburn
C/G Ryan Shuman - Virginia Tech
G Seth Olsen - Iowa
G/T George Bussey - Louisville
S DeAngelo Willingham - Tennessee
S Kevin Akins - Boston College
S Trimaine Goddard - North Carolina
S Tyrrell Herbert - Toledo
S Marcus McClinton - Kentucky
S Dahna Deleston - Connecticut
S Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S Jim Johnson - Minnesota-Duluth
S Tom Nelson - Illinois St
S Jabir Perkins - Texas A&M-Kingsville
S Mike Mitchell - Ohio
S Colt Anderson - Montana
S Merrill Johnson - Auburn
S Zach Arnett - New Mexico
S Kyle McCarthy - Notre Dame
S Derrick Richardson - New Mexico St
S Greg Laybourn - Oregon St
S Bryan Williams - Akron
S Kevin Malast - Rutgers
S Curtis Taylor - LSU

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

well, i was going to do it differently this year, and put a value on each player, but in the interest of space, which is already going to be tight, i removed the player if he's expected to be long gone by the time i have him graded. For instance, i had both maualuga and stafford in the fourth round. Therefore, they won't show up here. Which brings me to point #2 -- this is a patriots-specific board. There's many more players than usual (~220 compared to ~75 last year), but most would be in the late 7th-udfa category. Here goes:

1-24
ot eugene monroe - virginia
ot jason smith - baylor
dl bj raji - boston college
lb aaron curry - wake forest
cb malcolm jenkins - ohio st

25-40
ot michael oher - mississippi
ot william beatty - connecticut
olb clint sintim - virginia --- a little too high, i now have him in the next set.
de tyson jackson - lsu
wr darius heyward-bey - maryland
wr hakeem nicks - north carolina

41-55
te jared cook - south carolina
ot jamon meredith - south carolina
olb connor barwin - cincinnati --- i don't recognize the name, he must be falling from the top of the draft where i haven't been concentrating...
cb vontae davis - illinois --- do not want.
cb darius butler - connecticut
de evander hood - missouri
s patrick chung - oregon
wr brian robiskie - ohio st

56-70
te chase coffman - missouri --- i'd move him down a set, the injury bug to his feet is really scary when coupled to no blocking.
te shawn nelson - southern miss
ot eben britton - arizona --- up a set as a rt.
c/g jonathan luigs - arkansas
c/g max unger - oregon --- 25-40
c/g eric wood - louisville --- 25-40
cb alphonso smith - wake forest up a set
db sean smith - utah
olb michael johnson - georgia tech --- down a set
ilb jasper brinkley - south carolina --- much too high, 5th round or later
s louis delmas - western michigan
s william moore - missouri

Okay, what is software glitch is killing all the capital letters when I preview this post? e.e. cummings was never my inspiration...

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

71-95
wr derrick williams - penn st --- too soon
wr percy harvin - florida --- do not want.
cb dj moore - vanderbilt --- as a wr?
cb coye francies - san jose st
cb victor harris - virginia tech
cb asher allen - georgia --- seems early
cb mike mickens - cincinnati
te james casey - rice
nt ron brace - boston college --- i'd bump him up as much as two sets.
ilb lawrence sidbury - richmond
s michael hamlin - clemson --- down one
s chip vaughn - wake forest --- up one.
s david bruton - notre dame
db sherrod martin - troy

96-120
ot lydon murtha - nebraska --- down one.
ol tj lang - eastern michigan --- up two.
cb joe burnett - central florida
cb christopher owens - san jose st
cb kevin barnes - maryland
db bradley fletcher - iowa
te travis beckum - wisconsin --- down one.
wr juaquin iglesias - oklahoma --- up one.
wr jarret dillard - rice
wr/qb pat white - west virginia
wr brandon tate - north carolina
olb cody brown - connecticut
de dorell scott - clemson
de fili moala - southern cal --- down one.
s rashad johnson - alabama
s jairus byrd - oregon
s cj spillman - marshall

121-160
ilb antonio appleby - virginia --- down one.
ilb tyrone mckenzie - south florida
ilb joshua mauga - nevada
ilb robert francois - boston college
ot gerald cadogan - penn st
ot cornelius lewis - tennessee st
ot joel bell - furman
ot robert brewster - ball st
ot andrew gardner - georgia tech
ot alex boone - ohio st --- do not want.
c/g antoine caldwell - alabama
c/g blake schlueter - texas christian
g ryan durand - syracuse
cb don carey - norfolk st
te john phillips - virginia
te kory sperry - colorado state
nt terrance knighton - temple
nt sammie lee hill - stillman
wr tiquan underwood - rutgers
wr mohamed massaquoi - georgia
wr darius passmore - marshall --- without looking, i think i've read of too many off-field issues here, i'd double check first, but i'd probably drop him.
wr kevin ogletree - virginia
wr austin collie - brigham young
wr eron riley - duke
de corvey irvin - georgia
de alex magee - purdue
de nader abdallah - ohio st
de john gill - northwestern
olb pierre walters - eastern illinois
rb andre brown - north carolina st
rb james davis - clemson
rb rashad jennings - liberty
rb shonn greene - iowa
rb tony fiametta - syracuse
s keenan lewis - oregon st
db morgan trent - michigan
s brandon underwood - cincinnati
s derek pegues - mississippi st
s otis wiley - michigan st

161-210
qb curtis painter - purdue --- down one.
ot sebastian vollmer - houston --- up one.
ot andrew hartline - central michigan
cb cary harris - southern cal
cb bruce johnson - miami
cb captain munnerlyn - south carolina
cb mark parson - ohio
cb jerraud powers - auburn
cb brice mccain - utah
cb ladarius webb - nichols st up one.
cb terrail lambert - notre dame
te/qb zachary miller - nebraska omaha
te dan gronkowski - maryland
te anthony hill - north carolina st
te bear pascoe - fresno st
nt lonnie harvey - morgan st
nt vaughn martin - western ontario --- do not want.
wr brandon gibson - washington st
wr kenny mckinley - south carolina
wr michael jones - arizona st
wr manuel johnson - oklahoma
wr mike wallace - mississippi
wr dj boldin - wake forest --- down one.
olb brandon long - michigan st
olb mike rivera - kansas
ilb matt shaughnessy - wisconsin
ilb lee robinson - alcorn st
rb ian johnson - boise st
rb devin moore - wyoming --- do not want.
rb kory sheets - purdue
c aq shipley - penn st
c/g dominic green - nevada
g/t ryan stanchek - west virginia
g rich ohrnberger - penn st
s jonathan casillas - wisconsin
s courtney greene - rutgers
s keith fitzhugh - mississippi st
s chris clemons - clemson
s troy nolan - arizona st
s jamarca sanford - mississippi

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 & 0

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

211+
OT Ben Coblyn - Massachusetts
OT Ryan McKee - Southern Miss
OT Paul Carpenter - Weber St
OT Phil Trautwein - Florida
OT Dane Randolph - Maryland
OT Chris Kemme - Akron
OL Greg Ryan - Western Kentucky
QB Sean Glennon - Virginia Tech
QB Brian Hoyer - Michigan St
QB Tom Brandstater - Fresno St
QB Mike Teel - Rutgers
QB Rudy Carpenter - Arizona St
CB Donald Washington - Ohio St
CB Brandon Hughes - Oregon St
CB Wopamo Osaisai - Stanford
CB London Fryar - Western Michigan
CB Ryan Palmer - Texas
CB Jahi Word-Daniels - Georgia Tech
CB DeAngelo Smith - Cincinnati
CB Michael Ray Garvin - Florida St
CB Weldon Brown - Lousiana Tech
CB Kevin Sanders - UAB
CB Vincent Butler - New Mexico St
DB Derek Cox - William and Mary
DB Sean Smalls - Massachusetts
TE Richard Quinn - North Carolina
TE Jared Bronson - Central Washington
TE Branden Ledbetter - Western Michigan
TE/S/QB Tyler Lorenzen - Connecticut
C/G Rob Bruggeman - Iowa
C Cecil Newton - Tennessee St
WR Jeremy Childs - Boise St
WR Sammie Stroughter - Oregon St
WR Quan Cosby - Texas
WR Greg Orton - Purdue
WR Vinny Perretta - Boise St
WR Julian Edelman - WR Kent St
WR Eric Peterman - Northwestern
NT Louis Ellis - Shaw
OLB Jarriett Buie - South Florida
OLB Will Davis - Illinois
OLB Stryker Sulak - Missouri
OLB Orion Martin - Virginia Tech
OLB Henry Melton - Texas
ILB Brandon Williams - Texas Tech
ILB Adam Vincent - UTEP
ILB Maurice Kitchens - Marshall
ILB Kirston Pittman - LSU
DE Khalif Mitchell - East Carolina
DE Rashaad Duncan - Pittsburgh
DE Ra'shon Harris - Oregon
DE Everette Pedescleaux - Northern Iowa
DE Richard Washington - Clark Atlanta
RB Andrew Johnson - Akron
RB Kyle Bell - Colorado St
RB Herb Donaldson - Western Illinois
RB Marcus Thigpen - Indiana
RB Quinn Johnson - LSU
RB Curtis Brinkley - Syracuse
RB Marlon Lucky - Nebraska
RB LaRod Stephens-Howling - Pittsburgh
RB Rodney Ferguson - New Mexico
RB Tristan Davis - Auburn
C/G Ryan Shuman - Virginia Tech
G Seth Olsen - Iowa
G/T George Bussey - Louisville
S DeAngelo Willingham - Tennessee
S Kevin Akins - Boston College
S Trimaine Goddard - North Carolina
S Tyrrell Herbert - Toledo
S Marcus McClinton - Kentucky
S Dahna Deleston - Connecticut
S Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S Jim Johnson - Minnesota-Duluth
S Tom Nelson - Illinois St
S Jabir Perkins - Texas A&M-Kingsville
S Mike Mitchell - Ohio
S Colt Anderson - Montana
S Merrill Johnson - Auburn
S Zach Arnett - New Mexico
S Kyle McCarthy - Notre Dame
S Derrick Richardson - New Mexico St
S Greg Laybourn - Oregon St
S Bryan Williams - Akron
S Kevin Malast - Rutgers
S Curtis Taylor - LSU

The TCU defense took a hit on your board I see.

 

[jmt57]

Found this, just for something fun to look at while we're awaiting the draft.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...61-u-h-horizontal-sort-final-draft-board.html

 

[billdog3484]

how do you go about reading this thing and understanding what you are talking about? thanks

 

[Ochmed Jones]

Very nice. A lot of interesting groupings.

 

[mgteich]

If this is Belichick's board, he should be looking for partner's to trade down.

Well, I was going to do it differently this year, and put a value on each player, but in the interest of space, which is already going to be tight, I removed the player if he's expected to be long gone by the time I have him graded. For instance, I had both Maualuga and Stafford in the fourth round. Therefore, they won't show up here. Which brings me to point #2 -- this is a Patriots-specific board. There's many more players than usual (~220 compared to ~75 last year), but most would be in the late 7th-UDFA category. Here goes:

1-24
OT Eugene Monroe - Virginia
OT Jason Smith - Baylor
DL BJ Raji - Boston College
LB Aaron Curry - Wake Forest
CB Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio St

25-40
OT Michael Oher - Mississippi
OT William Beatty - Connecticut
OLB Clint Sintim - Virginia
DE Tyson Jackson - LSU
WR Darius Heyward-Bey - Maryland
WR Hakeem Nicks - North Carolina

41-55
TE Jared Cook - South Carolina
OT Jamon Meredith - South Carolina
OLB Connor Barwin - Cincinnati
CB Vontae Davis - Illinois
CB Darius Butler - Connecticut
DE Evander Hood - Missouri
S Patrick Chung - Oregon
WR Brian Robiskie - Ohio St

56-70
TE Chase Coffman - Missouri
TE Shawn Nelson - Southern Miss
OT Eben Britton - Arizona
C/G Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
C/G Max Unger - Oregon
C/G Eric Wood - Louisville
CB Alphonso Smith - Wake Forest
DB Sean Smith - Utah
OLB Michael Johnson - Georgia Tech
ILB Jasper Brinkley - South Carolina
S Louis Delmas - Western Michigan
S William Moore - Missouri

71-95
WR Derrick Williams - Penn St
WR Percy Harvin - Florida
CB DJ Moore - Vanderbilt
CB Coye Francies - San Jose St
CB Victor Harris - Virginia Tech
CB Asher Allen - Georgia
CB Mike Mickens - Cincinnati
TE James Casey - Rice
NT Ron Brace - Boston College
ILB Lawrence Sidbury - Richmond
S Michael Hamlin - Clemson
S Chip Vaughn - Wake Forest
S David Bruton - Notre Dame
DB Sherrod Martin - Troy

96-120
OT Lydon Murtha - Nebraska
OL TJ Lang - Eastern Michigan
CB Joe Burnett - Central Florida
CB Christopher Owens - San Jose St
CB Kevin Barnes - Maryland
DB Bradley Fletcher - Iowa
TE Travis Beckum - Wisconsin
WR Juaquin Iglesias - Oklahoma
WR Jarret Dillard - Rice
WR/QB Pat White - West Virginia
WR Brandon Tate - North Carolina
OLB Cody Brown - Connecticut
DE Dorell Scott - Clemson
DE Fili Moala - Southern Cal
S Rashad Johnson - Alabama
S Jairus Byrd - Oregon
S CJ Spillman - Marshall

121-160
ILB Antonio Appleby - Virginia
ILB Tyrone McKenzie - South Florida
ILB Joshua Mauga - Nevada
ILB Robert Francois - Boston College
OT Gerald Cadogan - Penn St
OT Cornelius Lewis - Tennessee St
OT Joel Bell - Furman
OT Robert Brewster - Ball St
OT Andrew Gardner - Georgia Tech
OT Alex Boone - Ohio St
C/G Antoine Caldwell - Alabama
C/G Blake Schlueter - Texas Christian
G Ryan Durand - Syracuse
CB Don Carey - Norfolk St
TE John Phillips - Virginia
TE Kory Sperry - Colorado State
NT Terrance Knighton - Temple
NT Sammie Lee Hill - Stillman
WR Tiquan Underwood - Rutgers
WR Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia
WR Darius Passmore - Marshall
WR Kevin Ogletree - Virginia
WR Austin Collie - Brigham Young
WR Eron Riley - Duke
DE Corvey Irvin - Georgia
DE Alex Magee - Purdue
DE Nader Abdallah - Ohio St
DE John Gill - Northwestern
OLB Pierre Walters - Eastern Illinois
RB Andre Brown - North Carolina St
RB James Davis - Clemson
RB Rashad Jennings - Liberty
RB Shonn Greene - Iowa
RB Tony Fiametta - Syracuse
S Keenan Lewis - Oregon St
DB Morgan Trent - Michigan
S Brandon Underwood - Cincinnati
S Derek Pegues - Mississippi St
S Otis Wiley - Michigan St

161-210
QB Curtis Painter - Purdue
OT Sebastian Vollmer - Houston
OT Andrew Hartline - Central Michigan
CB Cary Harris - Southern Cal
CB Bruce Johnson - Miami
CB Captain Munnerlyn - South Carolina
CB Mark Parson - Ohio
CB Jerraud Powers - Auburn
CB Brice McCain - Utah
CB Ladarius Webb - Nichols St
CB Terrail Lambert - Notre Dame
TE/QB Zachary Miller - Nebraska Omaha
TE Dan Gronkowski - Maryland
TE Anthony Hill - North Carolina St
TE Bear Pascoe - Fresno St
NT Lonnie Harvey - Morgan St
NT Vaughn Martin - Western Ontario
WR Brandon Gibson - Washington St
WR Kenny McKinley - South Carolina
WR Michael Jones - Arizona St
WR Manuel Johnson - Oklahoma
WR Mike Wallace - Mississippi
WR DJ Boldin - Wake Forest
OLB Brandon Long - Michigan St
OLB Mike Rivera - Kansas
ILB Matt Shaughnessy - Wisconsin
ILB Lee Robinson - Alcorn St
RB Ian Johnson - Boise St
RB Devin Moore - Wyoming
RB Kory Sheets - Purdue
C AQ Shipley - Penn St
C/G Dominic Green - Nevada
G/T Ryan Stanchek - West Virginia
G Rich Ohrnberger - Penn St
S Jonathan Casillas - Wisconsin
S Courtney Greene - Rutgers
S Keith Fitzhugh - Mississippi St
S Chris Clemons - Clemson
S Troy Nolan - Arizona St
S Jamarca Sanford - Mississippi

211+
OT Ben Coblyn - Massachusetts
OT Ryan McKee - Southern Miss
OT Paul Carpenter - Weber St
OT Phil Trautwein - Florida
OT Dane Randolph - Maryland
OT Chris Kemme - Akron
OL Greg Ryan - Western Kentucky
QB Sean Glennon - Virginia Tech
QB Brian Hoyer - Michigan St
QB Tom Brandstater - Fresno St
QB Mike Teel - Rutgers
QB Rudy Carpenter - Arizona St
CB Donald Washington - Ohio St
CB Brandon Hughes - Oregon St
CB Wopamo Osaisai - Stanford
CB London Fryar - Western Michigan
CB Ryan Palmer - Texas
CB Jahi Word-Daniels - Georgia Tech
CB DeAngelo Smith - Cincinnati
CB Michael Ray Garvin - Florida St
CB Weldon Brown - Lousiana Tech
CB Kevin Sanders - UAB
CB Vincent Butler - New Mexico St
DB Derek Cox - William and Mary
DB Sean Smalls - Massachusetts
TE Richard Quinn - North Carolina
TE Jared Bronson - Central Washington
TE Branden Ledbetter - Western Michigan
TE/S/QB Tyler Lorenzen - Connecticut
C/G Rob Bruggeman - Iowa
C Cecil Newton - Tennessee St
WR Jeremy Childs - Boise St
WR Sammie Stroughter - Oregon St
WR Quan Cosby - Texas
WR Greg Orton - Purdue
WR Vinny Perretta - Boise St
WR Julian Edelman - WR Kent St
WR Eric Peterman - Northwestern
NT Louis Ellis - Shaw
OLB Jarriett Buie - South Florida
OLB Will Davis - Illinois
OLB Stryker Sulak - Missouri
OLB Orion Martin - Virginia Tech
OLB Henry Melton - Texas
ILB Brandon Williams - Texas Tech
ILB Adam Vincent - UTEP
ILB Maurice Kitchens - Marshall
ILB Kirston Pittman - LSU
DE Khalif Mitchell - East Carolina
DE Rashaad Duncan - Pittsburgh
DE Ra'shon Harris - Oregon
DE Everette Pedescleaux - Northern Iowa
DE Richard Washington - Clark Atlanta
RB Andrew Johnson - Akron
RB Kyle Bell - Colorado St
RB Herb Donaldson - Western Illinois
RB Marcus Thigpen - Indiana
RB Quinn Johnson - LSU
RB Curtis Brinkley - Syracuse
RB Marlon Lucky - Nebraska
RB LaRod Stephens-Howling - Pittsburgh
RB Rodney Ferguson - New Mexico
RB Tristan Davis - Auburn
C/G Ryan Shuman - Virginia Tech
G Seth Olsen - Iowa
G/T George Bussey - Louisville
S DeAngelo Willingham - Tennessee
S Kevin Akins - Boston College
S Trimaine Goddard - North Carolina
S Tyrrell Herbert - Toledo
S Marcus McClinton - Kentucky
S Dahna Deleston - Connecticut
S Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S Jim Johnson - Minnesota-Duluth
S Tom Nelson - Illinois St
S Jabir Perkins - Texas A&M-Kingsville
S Mike Mitchell - Ohio
S Colt Anderson - Montana
S Merrill Johnson - Auburn
S Zach Arnett - New Mexico
S Kyle McCarthy - Notre Dame
S Derrick Richardson - New Mexico St
S Greg Laybourn - Oregon St
S Bryan Williams - Akron
S Kevin Malast - Rutgers
S Curtis Taylor - LSU

 

[mgteich]

Teams have a value board, ranking all the players that they are interested in. I would suspect that some recognition of need is included in these values. Chararacter issues affect rankings. How a player fits in to schemes is important. Many players high on other folk's boards are not included. As Heat says, he demotes them so much that he knows that they will be gone by the time the ranking comes up.
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HOW TO USE VALUE BOARDS

1-24
According to heat, we have interest in only five players as the draft unfolds. Depending on ranking, we might trade up if we fear not getting any of our 5 at 23 if the value is there for the trade, we might wait and pick, we might trade down given that all our guys are gone, or we might "reach" a bit and draft someone from the 25-40 list. we also could trade our pick into next year. These decisions would get made as each pick is made in the draft.

For example, if Monroe, J. Smith, Raji and Curry are all chosen in the top 10 (as is likely), then Belichick would look at his value for Jenkins and consider how high he would be willing to trade up and get on the phone.
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Personally, I don't agree with heat's indication that only 11 players may be worth a #23 or #34 to us. Since the ranking is 25-40, presumably a couple of the players wouldn't even be worth a 34. However, he certainly could be right. If he is, look for us to move our 23rd or perhaps 34th into next year and choose one of the 11.

how do you go about reading this thing and understanding what you are talking about? thanks

 

[BradyManny]

Bumping, great stuff.

 

[PATSNUTme]

DH44, I'm really being objective because I understand that any player that I really like, even though a good fit, has a less than 20% chance of actually beign drafted by the Patriots. Then they become the enemy when they are drafted by another team.

Having siad that, please explain how you have left Clay Matthews or even Brian Cushing off your board.

 

[dryheat44]

DH44, I'm really being objective because I understand that any player that I really like, even though a good fit, has a less than 20% chance of actually beign drafted by the Patriots. Then they become the enemy when they are drafted by another team.

Having siad that, please explain how you have left Clay Matthews or even Brian Cushing off your board.

I refer you to my opening statement. I'm working on my vertical stack now, which makes me aware that I have to adjust this one somewhat.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Well, I was going to do it differently this year, and put a value on each player, but in the interest of space, which is already going to be tight, I removed the player if he's expected to be long gone by the time I have him graded. For instance, I had both Maualuga and Stafford in the fourth round.

Having siad that, please explain how you have left Clay Matthews or even Brian Cushing off your board.

Their seventh round grades remove them from consideration.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Their seventh round grades remove them from consideration.

OK, 7th round it is. Maybe we can pick one of them up with pick 234.:ugh:

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

OK, 7th round it is. Maybe we can pick one of them up with pick 234.:ugh:

I thought that pick was being traded into 2010? :confused2:

 

[BTTA]

Further thoughts on this, from anyone, given what has been said and speculated in the past week by scouts, coaches, et al?

 

[dryheat44]

Further thoughts on this, from anyone, given what has been said and speculated in the past week by scouts, coaches, et al?

Well, after putting together the vertical sort, I've realized that this one isn't quite right. However, I wasn't planning on indulging my ego and posting a new one. If it's useful, I will tomorrow, though.

 

[BTTA]

Until draft boards, and draft prognosticators and "experts" are able and willing to rate players in the manner done below, their rankings are misleading.

It doesn't matter where a college player ranks against other players coming out of the draft.

What matters is where a college player ranks against current NFL talent that costs roughly the same amount of money.

Well, I was going to do it differently this year, and put a value on each player, but in the interest of space, which is already going to be tight, I removed the player if he's expected to be long gone by the time I have him graded. For instance, I had both Maualuga and Stafford in the fourth round. Therefore, they won't show up here. Which brings me to point #2 -- this is a Patriots-specific board. There's many more players than usual (~220 compared to ~75 last year), but most would be in the late 7th-UDFA category. Here goes:

1-24
OT Eugene Monroe - Virginia
OT Jason Smith - Baylor
DL BJ Raji - Boston College
LB Aaron Curry - Wake Forest
CB Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio St

25-40
OT Michael Oher - Mississippi
OT William Beatty - Connecticut
OLB Clint Sintim - Virginia
DE Tyson Jackson - LSU
WR Darius Heyward-Bey - Maryland
WR Hakeem Nicks - North Carolina

41-55
TE Jared Cook - South Carolina
OT Jamon Meredith - South Carolina
OLB Connor Barwin - Cincinnati
CB Vontae Davis - Illinois
CB Darius Butler - Connecticut
DE Evander Hood - Missouri
S Patrick Chung - Oregon
WR Brian Robiskie - Ohio St

56-70
TE Chase Coffman - Missouri
TE Shawn Nelson - Southern Miss
OT Eben Britton - Arizona
C/G Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
C/G Max Unger - Oregon
C/G Eric Wood - Louisville
CB Alphonso Smith - Wake Forest
DB Sean Smith - Utah
OLB Michael Johnson - Georgia Tech
ILB Jasper Brinkley - South Carolina
S Louis Delmas - Western Michigan
S William Moore - Missouri

71-95
WR Derrick Williams - Penn St
WR Percy Harvin - Florida
CB DJ Moore - Vanderbilt
CB Coye Francies - San Jose St
CB Victor Harris - Virginia Tech
CB Asher Allen - Georgia
CB Mike Mickens - Cincinnati
TE James Casey - Rice
NT Ron Brace - Boston College
ILB Lawrence Sidbury - Richmond
S Michael Hamlin - Clemson
S Chip Vaughn - Wake Forest
S David Bruton - Notre Dame
DB Sherrod Martin - Troy

96-120
OT Lydon Murtha - Nebraska
OL TJ Lang - Eastern Michigan
CB Joe Burnett - Central Florida
CB Christopher Owens - San Jose St
CB Kevin Barnes - Maryland
DB Bradley Fletcher - Iowa
TE Travis Beckum - Wisconsin
WR Juaquin Iglesias - Oklahoma
WR Jarret Dillard - Rice
WR/QB Pat White - West Virginia
WR Brandon Tate - North Carolina
OLB Cody Brown - Connecticut
DE Dorell Scott - Clemson
DE Fili Moala - Southern Cal
S Rashad Johnson - Alabama
S Jairus Byrd - Oregon
S CJ Spillman - Marshall

121-160
ILB Antonio Appleby - Virginia
ILB Tyrone McKenzie - South Florida
ILB Joshua Mauga - Nevada
ILB Robert Francois - Boston College
OT Gerald Cadogan - Penn St
OT Cornelius Lewis - Tennessee St
OT Joel Bell - Furman
OT Robert Brewster - Ball St
OT Andrew Gardner - Georgia Tech
OT Alex Boone - Ohio St
C/G Antoine Caldwell - Alabama
C/G Blake Schlueter - Texas Christian
G Ryan Durand - Syracuse
CB Don Carey - Norfolk St
TE John Phillips - Virginia
TE Kory Sperry - Colorado State
NT Terrance Knighton - Temple
NT Sammie Lee Hill - Stillman
WR Tiquan Underwood - Rutgers
WR Mohamed Massaquoi - Georgia
WR Darius Passmore - Marshall
WR Kevin Ogletree - Virginia
WR Austin Collie - Brigham Young
WR Eron Riley - Duke
DE Corvey Irvin - Georgia
DE Alex Magee - Purdue
DE Nader Abdallah - Ohio St
DE John Gill - Northwestern
OLB Pierre Walters - Eastern Illinois
RB Andre Brown - North Carolina St
RB James Davis - Clemson
RB Rashad Jennings - Liberty
RB Shonn Greene - Iowa
RB Tony Fiametta - Syracuse
S Keenan Lewis - Oregon St
DB Morgan Trent - Michigan
S Brandon Underwood - Cincinnati
S Derek Pegues - Mississippi St
S Otis Wiley - Michigan St

161-210
QB Curtis Painter - Purdue
OT Sebastian Vollmer - Houston
OT Andrew Hartline - Central Michigan
CB Cary Harris - Southern Cal
CB Bruce Johnson - Miami
CB Captain Munnerlyn - South Carolina
CB Mark Parson - Ohio
CB Jerraud Powers - Auburn
CB Brice McCain - Utah
CB Ladarius Webb - Nichols St
CB Terrail Lambert - Notre Dame
TE/QB Zachary Miller - Nebraska Omaha
TE Dan Gronkowski - Maryland
TE Anthony Hill - North Carolina St
TE Bear Pascoe - Fresno St
NT Lonnie Harvey - Morgan St
NT Vaughn Martin - Western Ontario
WR Brandon Gibson - Washington St
WR Kenny McKinley - South Carolina
WR Michael Jones - Arizona St
WR Manuel Johnson - Oklahoma
WR Mike Wallace - Mississippi
WR DJ Boldin - Wake Forest
OLB Brandon Long - Michigan St
OLB Mike Rivera - Kansas
ILB Matt Shaughnessy - Wisconsin
ILB Lee Robinson - Alcorn St
RB Ian Johnson - Boise St
RB Devin Moore - Wyoming
RB Kory Sheets - Purdue
C AQ Shipley - Penn St
C/G Dominic Green - Nevada
G/T Ryan Stanchek - West Virginia
G Rich Ohrnberger - Penn St
S Jonathan Casillas - Wisconsin
S Courtney Greene - Rutgers
S Keith Fitzhugh - Mississippi St
S Chris Clemons - Clemson
S Troy Nolan - Arizona St
S Jamarca Sanford - Mississippi

211+
OT Ben Coblyn - Massachusetts
OT Ryan McKee - Southern Miss
OT Paul Carpenter - Weber St
OT Phil Trautwein - Florida
OT Dane Randolph - Maryland
OT Chris Kemme - Akron
OL Greg Ryan - Western Kentucky
QB Sean Glennon - Virginia Tech
QB Brian Hoyer - Michigan St
QB Tom Brandstater - Fresno St
QB Mike Teel - Rutgers
QB Rudy Carpenter - Arizona St
CB Donald Washington - Ohio St
CB Brandon Hughes - Oregon St
CB Wopamo Osaisai - Stanford
CB London Fryar - Western Michigan
CB Ryan Palmer - Texas
CB Jahi Word-Daniels - Georgia Tech
CB DeAngelo Smith - Cincinnati
CB Michael Ray Garvin - Florida St
CB Weldon Brown - Lousiana Tech
CB Kevin Sanders - UAB
CB Vincent Butler - New Mexico St
DB Derek Cox - William and Mary
DB Sean Smalls - Massachusetts
TE Richard Quinn - North Carolina
TE Jared Bronson - Central Washington
TE Branden Ledbetter - Western Michigan
TE/S/QB Tyler Lorenzen - Connecticut
C/G Rob Bruggeman - Iowa
C Cecil Newton - Tennessee St
WR Jeremy Childs - Boise St
WR Sammie Stroughter - Oregon St
WR Quan Cosby - Texas
WR Greg Orton - Purdue
WR Vinny Perretta - Boise St
WR Julian Edelman - WR Kent St
WR Eric Peterman - Northwestern
NT Louis Ellis - Shaw
OLB Jarriett Buie - South Florida
OLB Will Davis - Illinois
OLB Stryker Sulak - Missouri
OLB Orion Martin - Virginia Tech
OLB Henry Melton - Texas
ILB Brandon Williams - Texas Tech
ILB Adam Vincent - UTEP
ILB Maurice Kitchens - Marshall
ILB Kirston Pittman - LSU
DE Khalif Mitchell - East Carolina
DE Rashaad Duncan - Pittsburgh
DE Ra'shon Harris - Oregon
DE Everette Pedescleaux - Northern Iowa
DE Richard Washington - Clark Atlanta
RB Andrew Johnson - Akron
RB Kyle Bell - Colorado St
RB Herb Donaldson - Western Illinois
RB Marcus Thigpen - Indiana
RB Quinn Johnson - LSU
RB Curtis Brinkley - Syracuse
RB Marlon Lucky - Nebraska
RB LaRod Stephens-Howling - Pittsburgh
RB Rodney Ferguson - New Mexico
RB Tristan Davis - Auburn
C/G Ryan Shuman - Virginia Tech
G Seth Olsen - Iowa
G/T George Bussey - Louisville
S DeAngelo Willingham - Tennessee
S Kevin Akins - Boston College
S Trimaine Goddard - North Carolina
S Tyrrell Herbert - Toledo
S Marcus McClinton - Kentucky
S Dahna Deleston - Connecticut
S Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S Jim Johnson - Minnesota-Duluth
S Tom Nelson - Illinois St
S Jabir Perkins - Texas A&M-Kingsville
S Mike Mitchell - Ohio
S Colt Anderson - Montana
S Merrill Johnson - Auburn
S Zach Arnett - New Mexico
S Kyle McCarthy - Notre Dame
S Derrick Richardson - New Mexico St
S Greg Laybourn - Oregon St
S Bryan Williams - Akron
S Kevin Malast - Rutgers
S Curtis Taylor - LSU